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LuckyLefty

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Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« on: March 17, 2013, 07:53:24 PM »
Enjoying this ball in my wet dry house.  Pin under ring stacked.

Lots of easy push, smooth slurve and good hit at impact.  Surprisingly a lot less than my Rotogrip Sonic X pearl which is pin up(explosive move at the breakpoint).

I'm wondering how to amp this up just a small tad.  Weighthole in the P2 or P3 position?(ball is ready for a P2, P3 or P4 weighthole.

A little increase in surface? ie maybe 3000 grip and Factory polish versus out of box 4000 with Factory Polish?

Brunswick experts?

Regards,

Luckylefty
« Last Edit: March 17, 2013, 07:56:17 PM by LuckyLefty »
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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 08:35:03 PM »
In what sense do you want to "amp it up"

More overall hook or more backend?
2 very different things.
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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 09:15:04 PM »
These scream on the backend with pin up 5-5 1/2" layouts.  Low flare + PK18 pearl will really spark off the dry if that's what you're looking for. 

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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 09:35:04 PM »
A little more board coverage, mostly in the back.

Ideas....?

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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2013, 12:50:21 PM »
These scream on the backend with pin up 5-5 1/2" layouts.  Low flare + PK18 pearl will really spark off the dry if that's what you're looking for. 

I think that core mollifies that backend.
I had/have mine with pin over ring finger, around 5" pin to PAP for me. It was very even reacting for me, and my release generally exaggerates the backends of most balls!
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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 12:57:21 PM »
A little more board coverage, mostly in the back.

Ideas....?

Regards,

Luckylefty

That "4000 grit + polish" sounded very suspicious to me. I know that's what this site has but no Brunswick ball ever had that finish. Brunswick's own web page only had "High gloss polish" so I checked with BrunsNick. The finish on the Black/Green is
500 grit + Rough Buff + High Gloss polish.
While that can be close to 4000 + polish, it is not the same and a lot depends on how much they applied the Rough Buff.  Personally I'd estimate the finish to be in the 2000 grit + polish range.

So I think if you did sand it to 4000 grit and applied a good dose of polish, you'd get more length and more backend but it would be more susceptible to carrydown.

If you added a P3 - P4 weight hole, I think the polished surface would save more of the increased flare for the backend.
OR
you could try a Motion Hole which is supposed to add backend.
See http://forum.bowlingchat.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=7374
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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 02:14:02 PM »
Charlest,

That was really nice of you to do, I truly appreciate it.

I have a bunch of balls done 500, Rough buff, and Factory finish polish(I added), ie my Ulti Max.

None push like this ball, and mine pin down, and drilled stacked 4 1/2 pin to PAP no weight hole.
I have a Sonic X pearl drilled almost the same but pin up slightly and surface 1500 and Storm Reacta shine.  It kicks right when fresh like someone kicked it!

I want this one Black Green a slightly stronger slurve.  In between the above two situations.  Note it had quite high top weight near 3.5 ounces.  Hits very hard but makes a late smooth slurve.

In all reality I think as track comes in, it will move towards what I want.

Last point.  My pin down Sonic X solid has been my go to ball most of the season.  But I like MOST of this push of the Green Black.

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Luckylefty
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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2013, 07:30:24 AM »
DID put in a P2 weighthole.  This took out illegal side and illegal thumb.  (ball was higher top weight than listed!).

The ball is now biting a touch earlier and starting to square up a little more.  I may let continue to track in or slightly scuff up the coverstock to little more bite.

I'll update.

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Luckylefty
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LuckyLefty

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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2013, 03:24:44 PM »
I was going to post new but I thought I would continue this thread for continuity.

The above pin down ball has proven to be quite nice on wetter wet/dry middles on league conditions and is very rounded in its move and yet will react to a bit of spark quite strongly from it's PK 18 tires!

Lots of really solid games from it where the sides are dry! 

On my newer house which is lighter oil in the mids and 40 feet and lots of recovery on the sides it does not work!

In comes  it's first cousin another avalanche green black(actually this one looks more like a bee with yellow/black and white!).  This ball looks like it may have sat in a basement in NJ that was flooded for a day and maybe has a touch of water damage making it look a little like a solid.  Also there is definitely no polish on this ball and maybe a finish of 800 to 1500 says my eyes.  Quite dull!

Pin above and to the side of ring, stacked with cg slightly closer to grip center.  This ball is actually angular if thrown deeper to the dry right at the break point.  If tugged into the crown a lot more rounded.  After a sharp move off the really dry near 4 this thing rolls quite straight in its new direction to the pocket (remember the low diff and 4 5/8 pin to PAP) and packs an uppercut to the pocket!

This ball matches up!  Easy to find the pocket in my pin up house, good recovery and except for a soft throwing day(shoulder soreness) had me a little soft this day.  This old looking dog could end up garnering me some big ones!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS the Strike Zone definitely hits harder from move angles(sparkier coverstock), but boy is it easy to find the pocket from this bumble bee looking oldie avalanche!                                                                                                           
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Re: Avalanche pearl, Green Black
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2013, 05:48:21 PM »
I love my Green/Black Avalanche. I've tried every surface on it possible and found 4000 high gloss polish to work best for me. House I bowl in is pretty much Med to Med/Lite with dry on the outside and I can use my Avi all 3 games in leauge if needed but usually start with my Blue/Orange Misfit the first game or so.