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dicnic

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Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« on: February 08, 2008, 11:48:19 AM »
Has anybody polished up an Absolute Inferno or Total Inferno to get more length?

I bowl on a THS and both of these balls seem to start up too soon and run out of gas.

Recommendations??
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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2008, 08:36:53 PM »
If you are going to polish either, use Beans Sauce.  I put it on one ball and have not been disappointed.  They give you a trial bottle, you just pay shipping.  Ball will go long and turn hard!

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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2008, 08:45:56 PM »
beans secret sauce is pretty much the most amazing stuff ive ever used... its like jesus in a bottle... in which i put on my bowling ball
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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2008, 08:54:10 PM »
I don't know about the whole bean's sauce thing, but I polished my absolute back in the day and it rolled phenomenal on a house shot. First game after being polished...299! I've also never seen anyone throwing a polished total. So, my suggestion is to polish the absolute, i'm sure you won't be dissapointed.
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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2008, 08:55:25 PM »
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If you are going to polish either, use Beans Sauce. I put it on one ball and have not been disappointed. They give you a trial bottle, you just pay shipping. Ball will go long and turn hard!  


Unless you have good revs and a lot of hand, I would say use Beans Sauce with caution the first time. For some people it seems to work great while for others like myself, the ball performs worse. On drier conditions, it may work better for people like myself, I don't know as I never tried it on drier conditions. Only tried it on medium and medium plus oil on synthetics. I'm not condeming it, only telling you to be careful. I've had my best results with Brunswick Factory Gloss Polish. Legends Polish is good too, but you have to be carefull about applying it too heavy or else it can give negative results, but it seems to last longer than other polishes.
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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2008, 09:13:23 PM »
I have polished every Absolute that I have owned(3 and counting). I did it because I am speed challenged. Like you mine tended to start up too early unless I was able to play up the boards. Anytime I had to move left and get around it a little more they would start too early. A light coat of polish seemed to let the ball read the pattern better. Just my .02$
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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2008, 02:24:22 AM »
My total with the pin in the palm wasn't very good polished.
for an early rolling ball with a strong cover there is really no point (try the radical)
The total has been awesome at 4000 grit.  its just smooth, doesn't die in the heads and hits hard.  785 with it tonight - a new personal best
I have seen a number of people throw absolutes polished and they looked pretty good.  In my estimation it would be a better ball to polish than the total.
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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2008, 01:27:53 AM »
From my experience with Activator+, be careful withg polish. This coverstock tends very well to surface changes - little tweaks can have an enormous effect (at least for me and a friend while doing experiments on this) if you stray from OOB Rough Buff finish. With a more matte finish, the ball reads the lane much earlier (say at 4.000 Abralon). For me, it was/is about a whole 4-5'! With polish I know that Activator+ has become either a love or hate thing, only a little in-between. I would not recommedn it, but you'll have to try how it works for yourself and your style. As a hint, just read the reviews about the Intense Inferno, Brunswick's single Activator+ ball with a polished OOB surface (and in fact, the ball to introduce this coverstock - it quickly disappeared again...).

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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2008, 06:54:36 AM »
I have a relative who follows Brunswick recommendations....dull, rough buff or factory finish.

Who uses these tools on all his Brunswick stuff and has great results on all sorts of conditions.

Note Brunswick recommendations of underlying sanding are DIFFERENT from other companies.  If memory serves me right like 200 grit before rough buff, 400 grit before factory polish.  To me this indicates Brunswick's polishes must have fine grits in them that take ones ball up to higher levels of finish.
Clearly few are bowling at 200 or 400 grit.

Many other companies say Storm will say grit up to where you want to go and then add for example Ebonite Factory polish or Storm Reacta shine.

If one goes to the Fury video at the Brunswick website one will see a great video on a ball but also how different polishes and drillings affect lane play.

Excellent stuff.

Also note...Brunswick has the throwbot.....his name is Bill Orlikowski!  Wow!

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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2008, 06:58:58 AM »
PS....I forgot to note the esteemed poster.

My son just purchased a Red Zone and is bowling in your house....he is ecstatic with his results.  On close out both there and on allstarbowling.com(I think)

I have used similar balls in there with good success....factory polish on light load partices and solids.

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PS as you know your bowling professional there is one of the best in the business along with his associate they know what balls drillings and polishes work in your house...plug them in....and throw!
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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2008, 10:29:04 AM »
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Note Brunswick recommendations of underlying sanding are DIFFERENT from other companies. If memory serves me right like 200 grit before rough buff, 400 grit before factory polish. To me this indicates Brunswick's polishes must have fine grits in them that take ones ball up to higher levels of finish.
Clearly few are bowling at 200 or 400 grit.




LuckyLefty, I could me wrong, but I don't think that Brunswick's Factory Gloss Polish has any grit in it. Rough Buff does, but I don't think the Factory Gloss does. Charlest is more of an authority on this than I am.

As for sanding at 200 grit and Ruff Buff Polish, you will end up with a higher grit than 200 grit when finished.

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2008, 07:41:42 PM »
Brick that was my point.  The rough buff ends up much higher grit than the 200 grit recommended before applying the Rough Buff.  How do you thisnk it gets there(to the higher grit).

I have the factory finish and it recommends 400 grit as the underlying sand.
Now as we both agree....no one throws a ball for length that is only 400grt ending surface?!

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Re: Polish an Absolute or Total ???
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2008, 08:28:06 PM »
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no one throws a ball for length that is only 400grt ending surface?!


LuckyLefty, that depends on the lane conditions, the strength of the cover, the RG of the ball, how hard/shiney you polish the ball, plus how much hand you have and so forth. A lot of vairables there as to whether  person can throw a ball at 400 Grit. I have 2 balls at 500 Grit Abralon and polished that get through the heads, get right down the lane without any problem at all and turn hard with that sanding grit. I did have a Track ball and Storm ball at 400 Grit Scotchbrite and polished that did a great job of getting thru the heads, down the lane and turning hard on the back end.

Now with someone else that has more hand than I, that grit may be too low and they need a higher grit, so you are mistaken that no one uses a 400 grit ending surface. As mentioned, I DID on 2 balls that I no longer have and I DO at 500 grit on two balls that I still have. And then I have a couple over 1000 grit, so as I said to start with, you have to factor in all of the vairables in determining the proper grit.
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