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LuckyLefty

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In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« on: February 11, 2008, 12:36:50 AM »
I bowl in some normal league patterns crowns etc and the Brunswick sheets are absolutely great!!

I also bowl at one place that is DIFFERENT than any pattern I've seen in the country.

40 foot shot on Brunswick Anvilanes old rock hard slick ones.

All day bowling then right before league a 14 foot head shot.

Result...14 foot of ajus, bone dry midlanes on the left(ball acts like there is pavement there) and then slop on the back because of all day plastic bowling etc.

The right has more ajus pushed down into the mids during practice and then more friction in the lane surface before the backend thus creating more push and more natural turn in the backs.  Frequently in this house the top righty out averages the top lefty by usually 14 to 18 pins..(some call this place HEAVEN!)  Recently the 2nd 300 in FIVE years was shot by a lefty!

I note in Brunswicks fantastic drill sheets the work for me GREAT everywhere but frankly I have not tried these drillings listed length and backend drillings on this shot.  Specifically talking about the length and backend drilling either page 12 for assymetric or page 4 for symmetrics.

What is becoming more common is this drilling from Hammer for the lefties to avoid midlane Hammer drilling #4

Most drillings that supply midlane or closer to stacked seem to supply too much entry angle on this shot for we lefties.

Here are some drillings that are almost working on this shot.  for me....


Sapphire Zone
XXFF
XPX
XXC
XX
XXXT

X Factor Deuce

XXPX
XXX
XXXXFF
XXXX
XXXC
XXXX
XXXXT MB

X Factor Deuce # 2

XXXXXP
XXXXFF
XXXXX
XXXXC
XXXX
XXXX
XXXXT MB



Ebonite Xcel PEarl Assym

XXXXP
XXXFF
XXX
XXXC
XXXXMB
WXXXT

Legend
P = pin
FF = fingers
C = CG
T = Thumb
MB = mass bias
X = space holder
W = weighthole


Note Xcel pearl did not have enough pop until adding a weighthole.

Bottom line....I'm afraid to supply any mass bias positions that supply any midlane whatsoever...but backend is still needed on the sloppy back!

Brunswick Gurus....will drillings 4 and 12 above not supply the too steep entry angle I usually get with any mb or cg kickouts?  

REgards,

Luckylerty
PS I have a Red Zone and a Fury that are available both long pin outs???
PPS pins above my bridge are about 5 3/4 pin to pap.





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charlest

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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2008, 05:08:21 PM »
In English, what does

"All day bowling then right before league a 14 foot head shot."

mean?

Most of the rest I can't follow. I don't know what you are talking about.
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LuckyLefty

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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2008, 08:09:15 PM »
Oiled 40 feet in the am.

12 hours of bowling.

10 minutes before league a 14 foot head shot is put down from the foul line to the to the arrows.

Midlanes are left bone dry.  All day carrydown is present in the backs.

Righties push headshot into the midlanes in practice.  Lefties are left with
14 feet of au jus= oil, bone dry midlanes, slop in the back.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Dan Belcher

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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2008, 08:16:20 PM »
I have something similar in my Saturday night league.  Wood lanes, regular house shot is put down before the men's league at noon.  After that, they have some open bowling, then just before league they run a 24 foot head fill shot.  They don't strip the lanes, they just put some more head oil down.  However, as I noted, we get about 10 more feet of oil than you do, so it's not quite as bad.  I've had good luck with pearl particle equipment and low RG solid equipment at 2000 grit combined with a higher ball speed and a fairly up-the-back release.

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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2008, 06:17:13 AM »
My problems...slow speed...on the side release....more pavement on the left than the righties can believe till they come over and throw a backup ball.

Sometimes at 14 feet the ball will actually JUMP as it hits what literally acts like pavement!

Funny....later in the set if a single lefty needs to move at the arrows....a small move repeats the pavement jumping effect...at the 14 foot mark!

All my higher sets come with another lefty on the pair....

We also use 2000 abralon solids with lots of polish!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS the real question...CAN a mass bias positive ball work or do I need to use Hammers negative mass bias position to push this ball thru the 25 feet of pavement after the arrows!  Brunswick drill gurus?
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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2008, 06:03:27 PM »
quote:
Oiled 40 feet in the am.

12 hours of bowling.

10 minutes before league a 14 foot head shot is put down from the foul line to the to the arrows.

Midlanes are left bone dry.  All day carrydown is present in the backs.

Righties push headshot into the midlanes in practice.  Lefties are left with
14 feet of au jus= oil, bone dry midlanes, slop in the back.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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I get the picture now. For whatever it's worth, I think for a house to do that is absolutely unconscionable. Better not to re-oil at all and leave it dry.

I don't know the answer to that question. It's bad enough when there's enough carrydown to see the ball double-clutch 40 feet down, by skidding an extra 4-6 feet after trying to get into a roll.

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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 07:27:40 AM »
It's not terrible on the right!  Some do call it heaven.

Again the simple description.

14 feet of au jus, 25 feet of pavement, then carrydown.  Interesting problem.

Brunswick gurus, can the Brunswick lenght with backend work....OR should i use the Hammer length with arc(MB negative).

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 10:30:31 AM »
Just saw a Hammer Black widow drilled like the Hammer #4 drilling referenced above!  Thrown by a good lefty on this tough condition...the ball owned this shot!

Mass bias negative mass bias in track, pin next to ring!

Sweet!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Brunswick gurus.  Any feeling how your mass bias go long with backend drilling will fare on this shot?
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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 10:58:23 AM »
Unless you know the bowler's pap that could be a strong mb position, just because it is on the opposite side of his thumb means almost nothing without knowing where the pap is???  

I know of a lefty 3 inches over 1 1/2 down so for that bowler that mb position would be strong.


quote:
Just saw a Hammer Black widow drilled like the Hammer #4 drilling referenced above!  Thrown by a good lefty on this tough condition...the ball owned this shot!

Mass bias negative mass bias in track, pin next to ring!

Sweet!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS Brunswick gurus.  Any feeling how your mass bias go long with backend drilling will fare on this shot?
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LuckyLefty

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Re: In reviewing the Brunswick assymetric sheets
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2008, 02:22:18 PM »
Mrbowling...I don't understand everything...but I hope you know I understand that.

HE and I are high trackers that have very similar releases.  Don't all we lefties have just about the same coordinates?

I'm extimating about 7 or so from his PAP.  His pin is about 4 1/2.

REgards,

Luckylefty
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