Post by: mckbowler on November 22, 2011, 02:15:51 AM
Nexus Solid *F ( P + F )
Releasing November 2011, the Nexus F (P + F), is Brunswick’s newest high performance ball. To explain the name of the ball; the first additive F is for Formula, the additive P is for Projection, and the final additive F is for Friction. These new additives are the next big thing in bowling. If the length, mid-lane, and backend reactions can be controlled, then the ball motion will always will be spot on. The friction additive will become extremely clear when you this throw this ball, because it hooks. The P-additive gives this ball plenty of push to make it down lane, but not too much push, because it always has an aggressive down lane reaction towards the pocket. My Nexus saves all its energy during through the mid-lane to then display a quick response from friction to the pocket. The engineering of this ball will allow all bowlers the consistency everyone is looking for in a bowling ball. The Nexus F (P + F) should be your next bowling ball.
· My Nexus is drilled pin above the bridge.
· I throw this ball on fresh house shots with medium to heavy oil.
· The out-of-box surface works extremely well with this ball.
Richard VanScoyk
Amateur Brunswick Staff Member
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Post by: Walking E on November 22, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
A guy in my league was throwing this last week. I was impressed with the ball's motion and the way it revved up, but the guy did not get good results since the lanes were a little dry and the ball was DOA all night. Still, it looks like it could be a really good piece on the right condition.
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Post by: Jorge300 on November 22, 2011, 12:56:46 PM
Richard,
No offense, but what is this?
You've posted the Bursnwick blurb about the ball and three short generic sentences. Nothing on how it is drilled other then a generic "pin above bridge", nothing on what your specs are, basically nothing at all. If you really want to be a representive for Brunswick, how about posting a review that would actually be useful for someone. Tell us what works, what doesn't work with the ball. Tell what reactions you are seeing.
Sorry but I see too many reviews like this from regular joes, I expect more from a company staff member.
Jorge300
Post by: mckbowler on November 23, 2011, 03:22:14 PM
Richard VanScoyk
My Rev’s are about 350.
My ball speed is about 17-18 Mph
What works with the Nexus Solid is:
1. Medium to heavy house shot condition
2. On Late carry-down on medium house shot conditions
* I weakened my hand position and moved left. This created a better
entry angle for me to carry the ten pin.
3. Stronger hand position before transition.
4. Weaker hand position during carry-down.
5. Depending on the house: I have been playing about 17 to 7ish.
What doesn't work with the ball with the Nexus Solid is:
1. This ball seemed too aggressive when I changed to a stronger hand
position during transition.
2. Can’t make it through three games at league. Depending on the
bowling alley, the heads dry up too quickly for this ball.
bowling alley, the heads dry up too quickly for this ball.
3. It is hard to keep up with the moves with this ball, because the oil dries
up quick.
Post by: kong1 on November 23, 2011, 08:37:16 PM
I just threw mine tonight on a fairly heavy shot. I am a tweener with medium revs. I drilled it pin up and that was a mistake. The ball goes 50 feet before beginning to turn. I was worried about getting it pin up because everyone said it would not hook early. I'm taking it in Friday to get it redrilled with the pin below the fingers. I hope this makes a difference. As is it is hooking less than anything else I have. Raw Profit, Ransom Demand, Cell Pearl, and Break.
Edited by kong1 on 11/24/2011 at 7:28 AM
Post by: on November 24, 2011, 06:19:23 AM
kong1,
Before you have it re-drilled add surface. That will affect reaction way more than the layout. Try it at 500 and use it again. Just trying to save you some cash...
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: kong1 on November 24, 2011, 06:29:37 AM
I'll give it a try before redrilling. I hate getting them redrilled anyway.
Post by: on November 24, 2011, 06:35:53 AM
The "projection" additive should allow you to add more surface than before and still retain a strong reaction. Good luck.
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: coasterp on November 25, 2011, 05:23:53 AM
Are you sure it's not buring early? I have one drilled pin up that I just polished and it still turns left out of the pattern. They do get down the lane but I am still detecting a little bit of early read.
Post by: kong1 on November 26, 2011, 11:28:24 AM
I will try sanding it first and if that doesn't work I'll try polish. Actually it is rolling like the Theory I had right now which burned up before it got to the arrows for me. I did get some NEAT pads so I'll try the N pad first and then try the N with a T pad over it and if that doesn't work I'll try like 1000 with polish or something like that. If none of that works I might try redrilling. Maybe it is burning up I can't really tell. The way I throw the ball everything tends to read early that is why I pretty much get everything drilled pin up. I will say this, i've never had much luck with the real strong equipment. I've had a Bounty Hunter, Theory, Virtual Gravity, Bank, and several others that wouldn't do much for me. I don't know if they burn up early or what. I've tried putting the pin anywhere from 3 1/2 inches from PAP to 5 1/2 inches from PAP and mant surfaces with no luck.
Edited by kong1 on 11/26/2011 at 1:59 PM
Edited by kong1 on 11/26/2011 at 2:06 PM
Post by: Good Times Good Times on November 26, 2011, 06:48:10 PM
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"America was established not to create wealth but to realize a vision, to realize an ideal - to discover and maintain liberty among men." - Woodrow WilsonPost by: kong1 on November 27, 2011, 04:19:55 AM
Thanks
Post by: on November 27, 2011, 07:14:43 AM
There's a BIG difference between rolling out and not reading the lane at all. Decide which one and let me know if I can help. When you said it was a fairly heavy shot I assumed it was getting too much skid. This is not the "typical" Brunswick solid cover that reads early though.
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
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Edited by notclay on 11/27/2011 at 8:16 AM
Post by: Brandon Riley on November 28, 2011, 12:28:19 AM
My Nexus does get through the heads very well considering how many boards it covers, but if you are seeing more hook out of a pearl cell then you need to use it in more head oil because your ball is likely hooking early and running out of gas.
Brandon Riley
Brunswick Advisory Staff
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Post by: kong1 on November 28, 2011, 01:43:35 AM
Post by: on November 28, 2011, 08:27:28 AM
kong,
I'm having a difficult time following this, but it sounds like you roll the ball end-over-end quite a bit.
When the lanes are freshly oiled, what part of the lane do you play? Inside of 10 board? Outside of 10 board? My guess is that although they are freshly oiled, you're playing outside where there isn't much oil to start with. That's the only thing I can think of that would make this particular ball burn up. It has been the easiest solid to get through the heads that I've thrown, but I'm playing deeper where the oil can help.
If that is the case then a little polish may help you. If I could see you with my own eyes (and the lane condition) I could fix the ball for you within a few shots. That's the only challenge with a forum. Is there someone you know that's good at reading ball reaction?
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: kong1 on November 28, 2011, 08:55:23 AM
I've tried several areas on the lanes, anywhere from 1'st arrow to between 3'rd and 4'th arrow. When I move inside and pitch it right the ball won't recover and when I move right the ball seems to hook and quit. The first oil line is about 1 inch outside the thumb and fingers and the ball flares around 5 inches or so. My PAP is 4 1/2 inches over and 1/2 inch up and my ball speed is 15 - 15.5 mph. Also I would mention that I don't loft the ball at all.
Post by: on November 28, 2011, 09:11:09 AM
kong,
I'm thinking with your PAP and going pin up you should try tweaking the surface to between 1000-2000 and then try a small swing shot (maybe 12-13 at the arrows) and see if that doesn't help.
My PAP and yours are basically the same, and on solids drilled pin up I can get away with more surface than other guys as long as there is some head oil. I took my Wild Card way down to 500 before bowling Nationals and had a great look with it. Most house shots don't have that kind of volume, but maybe the 1000-2000 range will give you something better.
Just curious, what lane surface do you bowl on?
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Edited by notclay on 11/28/2011 at 10:11 AM
Post by: kong1 on November 28, 2011, 09:30:05 AM
I bowl on Synthetic lanes. They are maybe 5 years old and they just put in new heads. I'm not sure what the brand name of them is but I've heard there are different degrees of friction on the synthetic lanes and these are the higher friction lanes. I was hoping when they put in new heads I would be able to get the ball through the heads better but that is not the case. When I do have a good shot I usually throw between 2'nd and 3'rd arrow and send it out to about 8 or so. Anything right of that is gone. And when the lanes start to open up I just gardually move in deeper and throw a tighter line. Lately for me anything inside 2'nd arrow won't hook 2 boards so I have to move right to get some kind of angle so I can carry.
Post by: on November 28, 2011, 10:02:26 AM
I'd try the surface around 1000-2000 to see if the ball starts reading the lane. If it does, but then quits (rolls out) then there probably isn't enough head oil, and making the surface slightly weaker will help. Weaker should be 500-1000 then a little polish.
Surface changes should be done in increments. If you go from extreme dull to extreme shiny it will be tough to get an accurate read. I will send a PM with more info.
Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
Brunswick Pro Shop Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.
Post by: kong1 on November 30, 2011, 08:45:06 PM
I tried it again tonight with a lot of polish and the ball did nothing for me. I will try taking it to 1000 and just a small amount of polish next time and see if that helps. The onlt thing I could use again tonight was the Cell Pearl again. It must be the block in that ball or something because it gets into an earlier roll in the midlane and fiinishes hard.