Post by: mj79 on March 04, 2010, 06:46:45 AM
Is this a concern because I'm on my way to order a ball now but don't want to deal with these issues at all
Post by: LotsaBalls on March 04, 2010, 03:04:42 PM
Post by: brunswickcomplete on March 04, 2010, 03:19:55 PM
won''t mention the companies name, but just drilled a fragranced ball
monday, to my and the customers surprise, many voids in the filler, some the
size of a large pea
JT
Avon pro shop
Edited on 3/4/2010 5:29 PM
Post by: charlest on March 04, 2010, 03:23:28 PM
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Well I was set on a diamondback until I just heard a local pro shop guy saying he stopped selling them because 60% of them were returned from being defective. Such as the core not being filled or there are air pockets inside the ball itself where alot of ppl have found air holes some as big as a pencil when drilling out the finger holes.
Is this a concern because I''m on my way to order a ball now but don''t want to deal with these issues at all
we each of us can only tell you our individual experiences with the few balls we have drilled for ourselves (I''ve had 5 from Mexico with zero problems). I think it''s a shame when a pro shop who CAN have lots of experience with one company tells you an outright lie like "60% failed". That is quite obvious a lie. It makes you wonder what his unspoken agenda is.
Also obviously there were start-up problems as there are in any new assembly line. Now several years later, do you really think Brunswick (and MoRich) would allow such a dismal quality rate to continue? Do you think they are planning to go out of business and don''t care about their reputation. That would make ZERO business sense.
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Post by: themagician on March 04, 2010, 03:23:44 PM
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 04, 2010, 03:46:41 PM
Mine was a first quality ball that had a logo problem. Bought it from an individual online who had bought it from bowlingball.com
I was able to exchange it with out problem. The people at Brunswick were great. In anything you deal with, great customer service makes a huge difference.
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Post by: J_w73 on March 04, 2010, 04:06:54 PM
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There are going to bad balls with every company, right after the move I did hear of more Big B issues from my Pro Shop guy but now that things have settled in for them I haven't seen anymore or less issues with ANY company when it comes to quality.
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I have drilled up 3 Brunwick Mexico balls with no problem with the interior.
I would double check the cg though cause two of the balls I got had 2 or 3 puch marks for the cg..
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HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Post by: jls on March 04, 2010, 05:25:25 PM
Have not had one defective Brunswick ball yet, since the move...
And I would say their plastic line never looked better....
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Post by: nocarey on March 04, 2010, 05:42:13 PM
Post by: Verbs on March 04, 2010, 06:13:26 PM
Yes I did used to work for Brunswick. Yes they did have significant PERFORMANCE, and some mismarked cg issues for a period of time after the move. But, as I have also said before, if anyone has a beef with Brunswick, it would be myself & JustRico. Now, we both work for LARGE customers of Brunswick. I can't speak for Rico, but as I stated above, I see far fewer manufacturing defects from Brunswick than any other manufacturer.
nocarey, in speaking with several Brunswick employee's about the decision to no longer offer new releases to the PBA membership, they all stated it was because of a select few, who would buy the balls from the PBA offer, and put them up for sale on Ebay. These offers are strictly for the personal use of the PBA member that ordered them.
So a few bad apples spoiled it for everyone. So if you know any of these individuals, "thank" them for their selfishness.
Verbs
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Post by: mj79 on March 04, 2010, 08:48:05 PM
Thanks again everyone
Post by: Brickguy221 on March 04, 2010, 09:13:57 PM
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Post by: mj79 on March 04, 2010, 09:24:36 PM
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I have owned 2 Brunswick balls made in Mexico and both were first rate quality as well as first rate in performance.
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Yea man, I cant wait to get back in the game again.. Got the diamond back ( and Ill be adding another strike ball soon
) need to get a new bag, some new shoes and a spare ball and Ill FINALLY be ready to start practicing for leagues!!
Post by: mainzer on March 04, 2010, 11:36:43 PM
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If you think they are out to get you,
You think you matter.
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Post by: mj79 on March 04, 2010, 11:46:10 PM
http://www.bowlingball.com/morich-ntense-levrg-bowling-ball.html
Post by: J_w73 on March 05, 2010, 08:15:15 AM
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I have thrown MoRich which is made in Mexico by Brunswick and have had NO issues.
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If you think they are out to get you,
You think you matter.
+++Gilbran Quail, Collected Essays "The Traitors Hand"+++(War Hammer 40,000)
Founding FatherBR Inquisition
MainzerPower
Just getting a sense from the forums of who Mo is I don't think he would have his balls made by a sh!tty company or put up with much nonsense if there were problems..
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HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
Post by: HughScot on March 05, 2010, 09:16:03 AM
decades. While I dislike seeing jobs go to Mexico or any foreign
country it is now a way of life.
Most textiles like t-shirts and underwear are sewn and assembled
in Mexico but say made in USA because the cotton was grown here
and the fabric was sent to Mexico.
Quality is all about the specs and equipment given the manufacturer
by the buyer and not the people doing the work. A bowling ball
made in Mexico should be exactly the same as one made in the USA.
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 05, 2010, 05:14:40 PM
They all look great. Only drilled the levrg so far. Others will probably wait till next season.
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Post by: mj79 on March 05, 2010, 07:09:20 PM