Post by: BrunsNick on March 04, 2010, 04:02:39 AM
PK17 Coverstock with a 2-piece core system...
Starts shipping March 15th to distributors!
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Edited on 3/4/2010 1:03 PM
Post by: LaneHammer20 on March 04, 2010, 12:05:45 PM
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What is sandbagging???
Post by: BrunsNick on March 04, 2010, 12:06:42 PM
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Post by: LaneHammer20 on March 04, 2010, 12:08:39 PM
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What is sandbagging???
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 04, 2010, 03:40:49 PM
Is there a link to a larger pic available?
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Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 04, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
I might add that when bowling with 7 other bowlers using the latest and greatest hook monsters I have had good success moving down in ball strength.
Edited on 3/4/2010 5:04 PM
Post by: TheFreeAgent on March 04, 2010, 03:58:30 PM
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Post by: WSUstroker on March 04, 2010, 04:18:42 PM
Post by: BrunsNick on March 04, 2010, 06:11:18 PM
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Post by: charlest on March 04, 2010, 06:25:51 PM
Pork Roll 17 is always welcome.
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Post by: on March 05, 2010, 02:08:43 AM
I think since it's designed to replace the Power Groove line, they probably wanted something not too crazy, yet a nice ball.
Frankly, these are probably designed to compete against the Freeze, which has been one of the easiest balls to sell on the market due to the low price point and overall value. The advantage will be that it's a Brunswick coverstock known for their unprecedented durability. Personally, I think we'll sell a ton of them.
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Post by: dizzyfugu on March 05, 2010, 02:58:31 AM
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Post by: TheDude on March 05, 2010, 06:22:02 AM
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Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 05, 2010, 09:39:43 AM
Frankly, these are probably designed to compete against the Freeze, which has been one of the easiest balls to sell on the market due to the low price point and overall value. The advantage will be that it''s a Brunswick coverstock known for their unprecedented durability. Personally, I think we''ll sell a ton of them."
Just going by the numbers I would think the Roto Grip Planets would be the closest comparison - and those were all excellent - even with, or more likely because of the numbers
Edited on 3/5/2010 10:42 AM
Post by: johns811 on March 05, 2010, 09:53:48 AM
Post by: on March 05, 2010, 10:33:11 AM
One of the product specialists just told me it looks like a Danger Zone on the lane. Not weak by any stretch.
Too often we just look at "numbers" and decide yes or no on a ball before it's released. Reserve judgement on this one until it's been out for at least a day or so.
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Post by: Juggernaut on March 05, 2010, 10:40:09 AM
PK17 on a rolly core? Really looks nice.
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Post by: JohnP on March 05, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
Post by: mainzer on March 06, 2010, 10:11:03 AM
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Post by: BrunsNick on March 06, 2010, 12:03:25 PM
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Post by: JohnP on March 06, 2010, 07:02:19 PM
Post by: RaginCajun on March 06, 2010, 07:10:25 PM
gonna be a real winner in my eyes.
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Post by: DP3 on March 06, 2010, 09:10:43 PM
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Post by: Rc Charger on March 07, 2010, 07:19:03 AM
It should give the Freeze some competition, to bad it wont come out any earlier league's are almost over.
RC
Post by: Corey C on March 07, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
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Post by: Juggernaut on March 07, 2010, 10:43:04 AM
quote:
You may have just sold me another Brunswick ball. I've looked really hard at the last pearl Avalanche, but didn't want a strong, PK18 reaction.
PK17 on a rolly core? Really looks nice.
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quote:
The new Avalanche will be a Pearl Urethane. I will be getting one of those bad boys.
O.K., you may have just sold me TWO more Brunswick balls.
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Post by: Crankenstein300 on March 07, 2010, 12:52:11 PM
Post by: holland1945 on March 07, 2010, 03:44:08 PM
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The new Avalanche will be a Pearl Urethane. I will be getting one of those bad boys.
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Holy cow, I may have to pick up one of those, too. Right now I use an old pin down Speed Demon Zone for a very urethane-like reaction on an old wood house where I bowl my main league currently, I think this would be a good replacement.
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Post by: Activator on March 08, 2010, 01:18:16 PM
Post by: qstick777 on March 16, 2010, 11:06:16 AM
Post by: BrunsBob on March 18, 2010, 12:37:28 AM
RoB LaW
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Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 19, 2010, 12:09:19 AM
Post by: JustRico on March 19, 2010, 06:58:57 AM
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Post by: PowrKoil17 on March 19, 2010, 12:53:33 PM
Post by: on March 19, 2010, 01:18:07 PM
The Slingshot will be replacing the Power Groove line.
Slingshot has a 2 piece core that has a lower RG than the Power Groove for better mid lane control and also a lower diff for easy length.
The 2 piece core will have stronger hitting power than the original Power Groove core.
If you've ever needed a ball for those dry lanes this will be an excellent choice.
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Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 19, 2010, 04:28:18 PM
Group: Users
*The Slingshot will be replacing the Power Groove line.
*Slingshot has a 2 piece core that has a lower RG than the Power Groove for better mid lane control and also a lower diff for easy length.
*The 2 piece core will have stronger hitting power than the original Power Groove core.
*If you've ever needed a ball for those dry lanes this will be an excellent choice.
+ 1
The price will be a shocker to competitors
Post by: JustRico on March 19, 2010, 05:58:18 PM
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Post by: OddBalls on March 22, 2010, 01:39:02 PM
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The core has nothing to do with the strength a bowling ball hits. One bowling ball does not hit harder than another. One may have a slightly higher CoR but one ball hitting harder than another is a misnomer. If you are using the proper ball on the proper lane conditions equates to the bowling performing properly. Also a bowling ball that carries properly has a certain amount of deflection. A bowling ball that is still driving when it hits the pins generally will not carry.
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Don't tell that to the lane#1 folks..
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Post by: Juggernaut on March 22, 2010, 01:49:09 PM
quote:quote:
The core has nothing to do with the strength a bowling ball hits. One bowling ball does not hit harder than another. One may have a slightly higher CoR but one ball hitting harder than another is a misnomer. If you are using the proper ball on the proper lane conditions equates to the bowling performing properly. Also a bowling ball that carries properly has a certain amount of deflection. A bowling ball that is still driving when it hits the pins generally will not carry.
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Don't tell that to the lane#1 folks..
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Post by: cappy718 on March 23, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
900 Global Break S75
Visionary Gladiator Pearl
Ebonite NVS
Brunswick Fury Solid
I have a 2 Radical Infernos hanging out in the bag at home for now, I just need to change the pitch of fingers on one that's drilled with pin up. Other one needs to be resurfaced badly, it got chewed up a little in a ball return a year ago, but has been patched. Oh and a Storm Xfactor that's on it's last leg. Its been resurfaced so many times the etching is starting to come off...eeek!
What do you all think?
Post by: Juggernaut on March 23, 2010, 06:00:51 PM
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I'm very curious about this ball. Do you think it would fit in my line up?
900 Global Break S75
Visionary Gladiator Pearl
Ebonite NVS
Brunswick Fury Solid
I have a 2 Radical Infernos hanging out in the bag at home for now, I just need to change the pitch of fingers on one that's drilled with pin up. Other one needs to be resurfaced badly, it got chewed up a little in a ball return a year ago, but has been patched. Oh and a Storm Xfactor that's on it's last leg. Its been resurfaced so many times the etching is starting to come off...eeek!
What do you all think?
I think if you're looking for a ball weaker than anything you already have, then it would fit.
PK 17 is reasonably mild. You couple that with a rolly, lower diff core, and the results SHOULD be something you could use on drier conditions.
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Post by: cappy718 on March 23, 2010, 07:01:26 PM
Post by: no300tj on March 23, 2010, 07:23:51 PM
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Post by: J_w73 on March 24, 2010, 03:06:37 AM
What do you think about a 1 to 1 1/2 pin to pap layout... ?
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Post by: dizzyfugu on March 24, 2010, 04:08:43 AM
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How rolly is this ball with a traditional layout?
What do you think about a 1 to 1 1/2 pin to pap layout... ?
Would IMHO result in a very straight ball. Such a setup is really rolly, and coupled with the low differential I think you just get that much hook out of it that you impart through side rotation. The higher RG should help it getting down the lane, but I think you'd have to play it aggressively to get a decent reaction out of it. Probably good for straight down 2nd arrow and a shallow entry angle, but I am not sure if the pin that close to the PAP sacrifises too much hitting power duie to the rolling tendency. I am sceptical.
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Post by: J_w73 on March 24, 2010, 09:17:43 AM
quote:quote:
How rolly is this ball with a traditional layout?
What do you think about a 1 to 1 1/2 pin to pap layout... ?
Would IMHO result in a very straight ball. Such a setup is really rolly, and coupled with the low differential I think you just get that much hook out of it that you impart through side rotation. The higher RG should help it getting down the lane, but I think you'd have to play it aggressively to get a decent reaction out of it. Probably good for straight down 2nd arrow and a shallow entry angle, but I am not sure if the pin that close to the PAP sacrifises too much hitting power duie to the rolling tendency. I am sceptical.
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makes sense..I figured it would do whatever you put into it.. maybe really too weak..
So you think just drill it leverage and go with it..?
Do you think any drill that you put on it will make it the weakest Brunswick in the bag?
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