Author Topic: Brusnwick Slingshot and Activator (Read 9836 times)

LuckyLefty · « **on:** August 14, 2013, 11:56:51 PM »

This post is from a bit ago and from Charlest.

For whatever it's worth, as far as I know all Slingshots for sale in the USA are pearls. However, some one (who I thought might know) suggested to me a year or so back that the Black/Pink Slingshot used Activator coverstock, not the PK 17 used on all the rest. That said, I have no corroboration for this statement. I had intended to try one but never got around to it.

Going on in that post Charlest noted he had heard that the Karma Pearl Pink had Activator(actually, activator + see this description)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Brunswick-Karma-Pearl-Reactive-Bowling-Ball-Purple-Pink-Pearl-NIB-/200908171881?pt=Bowling&var=500150676759&hash=item2ec70f6a69

So I am wondering, this coverstock on my new Pink Black Slingshot looks so similar.
Anyone think or know whether this is an Activator * also? It looks just like the Karma Pink on the shell.

http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/slingshot-black-pink/

However, I note that it is Brunswick that called the Karma Pink Black covered with Activator +

They also say the Pink Black Slingshot is PK 17 as above.

REgards,

Luckylefty

kidlost2000 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2013, 04:46:56 PM »

They labelled a lot of covers on overseas equipment pk24 (pk18ss)ect. So no doubt pk18 has been used as part of a starting point for many bowling balls. I asked Mo what was the cover of the n'tense levrg close to from Brunswick and he advised it was pk18 with extra addatives. That ball and cover was more then I could use on almost any condition.

batbowler · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2013, 07:40:14 PM »

The Strike King is a lot of ball, or great ball for the money! I was shocked at the performance when I drilled it and was expecting a little stronger Slingshot! The Ringer is also a great ball for the money and a touch stronger than the Strike King! I've always said that I don't understand how a company can sell some high-end stuff when they make the so called low-end/entry level so good!! Just my $.02, Bruce

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2013, 09:49:25 PM »

Bat,

I bave been watching videos of the slingshot versus the Strike king and after seeing them together I believe you are giving a perfect description of the differences especially after seeing the Strike King in person. It's move is quite angular!

In regards to the Ringer I hear everyone say that it is stronger than the Strike King but in watching the Videos it appears that the Ringer for almost every bowler has a strong smooth but Rounded motion.

Do you agree? I have not seen any flip from the ringer, only smooth powerful continuation? Here is a video that I believe shows that,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLdQ_9Qu5qE

Your thoughts?

REgards,

Luckylefty

REgards,

Luckylefty

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2013, 08:56:36 PM »

Bat bowler,

I notice you mention the coverstock, is the same as the UltiMax with a weaker core.

I note the Ultimax is listed with a CFT Or Chemical Friction Tech coverstock, it is also listed as a having a Projection additive.
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/csystem-ulti-max/

On the other hand Nexus pear is listed as CPT= Chemical Projection Tech. I wonder if it is more like the Nexus pearl with less core?
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/nexus-p/

I'm hoping that the coverstock has a little less grab at my shorter house shot than the UltiMax! (which I love on shots over 40 feet or when playing deeper inside!)

It looks smoother to my eye than the grab of the Powerhouse bite of the Ultimax cover!

REgards,

Luckylefty

batbowler · « **Reply #20 on:** August 19, 2013, 11:24:47 PM »

Luckylefty! Correct! My Strike King is drilled almost identical to my Ringer and the Strike King has a stronger move at the back end! The Ringer is more strong arc and Strike King is more skid/flip reaction! The response to friction is higher with SK! Both are great balls for the price, but the difference being back end reaction! The Ringer does read the midlane a sooner and that's probably the difference in break point reaction! The comments they make about the cover is they use the C-System cover on a lower price point ball. BTM stated that it's the same as the Ulti-Max and notclay may be able to verify the cover! Just my $.02, Bruce

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #21 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:28:09 AM »

Bat,

I appreciate those comments. These are exactly what my eyes are seeing on videos and from Watching the Strike King.

My Ringer showed up yesterday with less specs (short pin and less top weight than I requested), but frankly that could be great at my humungous backend house that almost could take my UltiMax but not quite because of the sharp bite to friction!

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS I often use solids in this house but this ball looks like it might be smooth enough.

BallReviews-Removed0385 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:52:54 AM »

While I really don't know for certain regarding the Ringer's cover, I will state that it does handle more volume than the Strike King. Even with my Ringer pin up, and my Strike King pin down, the Ringer does read the mid-lane much better from what I am seeing.

The Strike King could be more angular due to the fact that it goes longer, and once it finds adequate friction, seems to respond fairly quickly. Our eyes see the late movement easier than what the ball does mid-lane, since it hasn't changed direction much yet. Nice observations here. Thanks to all.

batbowler · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2013, 10:02:45 AM »

A side note: I took a 3000 abralon pad to the Strike King and it took some of the snap and it helps it to read better. It had a tendency to push to long and it helps out in that area! I took a worn 2000 pad on the Ringer and it helped to create a little more separation between the SK and Ringer! With that the Ringer is closer to the Marauder that is drilled with similar layouts! I prefer pin down when I'm moving deeper, cause of the earlier read I get from the pin down and I want something to start a little sooner to kick the corners out! Good luck with you new stuff and let us know what you think and how it's working!! Bruce

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2013, 07:19:42 AM »

Bat,

Thanks for the updates!

Well changes in life of course. Bowlmor has taken over my center like many others in the country.

What everyone in the house is saying. where's the backend? I have equipment for this! I have not bowled in a league but I've moved 11 boards left and I'm playing like a real lefty.....up six. Note whenever in leagues is when I really noticed the spark in the back but the center looks to be oiled like usual just no stripper(good cost savings I guess!). I'll try a league soon and see if I where I was last year but if not, this new dryer lane equipment might not ever even have holes in it.

Out will come my unstoppable Track Spell just in case the slop continues!

Oh and just an update! Took out my new Pink Black Slingshot with the activator and threw two handed right handed(my natural side) no finger holes. (why didn't I learn this instead of switching to lefty?)This often gives me a good idea of what to expect, as to length and shape and drilling I may put on.

Just as I thought and Notclay told us, this moves like activator! Smooth and even a lot like a solid. Depending on what condition is out there, I can see this ball working if they find the dollars for the stripper. A good competitor for my Sonic X solid a touch more push in NIB condition. A lot earlier than those pearly PK 17 slingshots.

Regards,

Luckylefty

JazlarVonSteich · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2013, 11:04:42 AM »

Has anyone compared the Strike King with the Misfit Pearl and/or Marauder Mutiny? I thought the Mutiny would be a slight step up from my MP, but it is way more ball than the MP (and than advertised). I know I could probably just get a regular Misfit, but I did have my eyes on the Strike King since it was announced. What about the Ringer? Just looking for something that gives me a similar look to the MP, but a little stronger. Throwing two handed, the MP is usually my go to ball on a fresh house shot. But there are times it is a little too weak.

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #26 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:19:32 PM »

this may answer it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK31HIGwaE4

and posters out here are saying the Strike King is 4 boards weaker or to the right of the Ringer but that it has a slightly more angular or sharper move at the breakpoint.

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS good questions Jazlar

JazlarVonSteich · « **Reply #27 on:** August 22, 2013, 03:56:19 PM »

Interesting. From Jay's video, it appears that the MP is stronger than the Ringer. So therefore the Strike King should be even weaker. I will note that my MP is drilled more for length. I have another one that was drilled Rico - which did not work with my two handed release (ended up rolling over the finger holes). I had it plugged and redrilled, but I'm not really using it. It's also drilled more for length, but with the pin in a different position. I suppose I could get another one and use a pin under drilling. But perhaps a Strike King drilled pin under will give me what I'm looking for.

I do know that I've seen different reactions out of the same balls when I throw them as opposed to the reactions in Jay's videos (and I've watched/bowled against him, as we live in the same city). But that's all due to drillings/surfaces and our different styles.

batbowler · « **Reply #28 on:** August 22, 2013, 09:52:47 PM »

I don't see the MP being stronger than the Ringer! The trouble with the MP is the over/under I see with it and I've had guys quit using the MP cause of that reason! The cover on the Ringer reads the lane better than the MP and if you keep the MP in the oil it pushes forever, but jumps off the friction! My Misfit solid is just under the Marauder and closer to the Ringer! The Misfit are going for a great price and I prefer the Strike King to the MP, but that's just me!! I've had guys test my stuff and I didn't have anybody that didn't like the Strike King! They had weren't big fans of the MP, but they said it was a ok ball!!! Just my $.02, Bruce

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #29 on:** August 26, 2013, 10:07:29 PM »

First Impressions! This Pink Black just drilled up and maybe not legal is very similar to my Sonic X Solid though drilled a touch stronger.

It almost acts like a Solid but not quite just a touch stronger off friction than my Sonic X solid. Drilled 4 inch pin to pap, near stacked with cg back a little towards the grip center, can still probably use a weighthole. Even the break shape is like the other Sling shots however the cover moves more in the oil and then smoother when encountering friction than other Slingshots(pearl 17 powerkoil pearl), but still powerful. This one is supposed to be Activator! More grab in oil than the PK17 pearl and while strong off the friction still smoother than most pearls.

I think once I give it little TLC by getting the thumb to come off clean, in addition I will try to fix the potential for Static weight problems by putting a reaction changing weighthole in it. I believe it will make it a little earlier on our now wetter league shot.

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS will update

LuckyLefty · « **Reply #30 on:** August 29, 2013, 10:56:47 PM »

An update....

This ball was legal but barely on side weight and usually that combo with my roll(strong side roll), leads to a late break and sharp too late move off the spot. So it was with this ball and all with strong side for my roll.

Ball even with CG below the midline had finger so I drilled the fingers deeper and did the middle even deeper than the middle to raise the side weight to illegal. Now the result pre weighthole was illegal side and finger converted to thumb. This gave me the opportunity to drill the weighthole down my VAL 1.5 inches and take out about 1/2 side. This resulted in less top, 1/2 ounce side and neutral finger/thumb.

Now the ball is smoothed out but has more total move off of a smooth earlier breakpoint! IDEAL!

the slightly wetter versions of last years wet/dry took out old faithful my Sonic X solid and threw up 9 and it smoothly flushed with it's rounded move and "ring me up a 7 pin please". Took the Activator covered version of this Sling and playing the same line it high flushed and they crumbled.

This ball because of the pearly nature has more energy and a little more total drive due to it's higher diff and coverstock. Even though the move is the exact same rounded look as the Sonic X it has that small bit of extra in this control ball class to give great carry and energy retention if a rounded move ball reaction is enough to carry the day!

I'm very excited about my choice of this as a possible upgrade to very well liked and almost loved Sonic X solid!

I love it when a plan comes together!

Regards,

Luckylefty
PS do not confuse this Purple black to any other of the Slingshot pearls with PK17, this one is different, earlier with less off the dry!

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