I've got mine pin over fingers, cg kicked out an inch or so with a weighthole on the pap. Absolutely love it. It's a skid/snap/set type reaction. It's not a ball that's going to turn the corner, and keep heading for the 7 pin through the rack. It reacts directly to the roll angle. It's not one of these that you can put a 30 degree forward roll on it, and have it pick up and start moving left. Very stable controllable roll. I want another one!!!
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Forget Kung Fu, I know Ron Bahr!!!
The only difference between youth and adult leagues are that the big boys are allowed to whine. They're more entertaining anyway.