Post by: T-GOD on March 06, 2008, 06:57:42 AM
Post by: bonz50 on March 06, 2008, 03:17:59 PM
Post by: Jesse James on March 06, 2008, 03:20:52 PM
I am not over it! I refuse to buy Brunswick!
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Post by: mrbowlingnut on March 06, 2008, 03:30:19 PM
You guys must have nothing better to do than start crap about brunswick still, so maybe you should have them make your new stuff and then repin it hahhahaaha
Post by: NicholasE on March 06, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
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Post by: Beef STL on March 06, 2008, 03:46:51 PM
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Post by: DukeHarding on March 06, 2008, 03:48:51 PM
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Post by: Joe Jr on March 06, 2008, 03:50:06 PM
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Post by: jls on March 06, 2008, 03:50:30 PM
Some bowling balls are made in China!!
Brunswick balls are made in Mexico!!
Is this a great country or what?
"yes we can"
"yes we will"
actually, No we don't!!
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Post by: NicholasE on March 06, 2008, 04:00:20 PM
Do you guys know what the most produced vehicle in America is???
If you guessed, chevy, ford, or dodge your wrong.
If you guessed Toyota... DING DING...
Lots of things are made out of the country but are still great. Just about eveything is made in an alternative country. Just how America works.
So, really Americans don't want to do the labor when we could just pay someone else to do it!! Gah we are so lazy...but boy does it feel good! lol
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Post by: DON DRAPER on March 06, 2008, 07:59:07 PM
Post by: shelley on March 06, 2008, 09:04:51 PM
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i saw nothing on hammer's site about anyone complaining about the black widow clear plastic ball being made in china. yet, people will complain and/or boycott brunswick equipment because it's made in mexico.
All of the clear balls are made overseas. Always have been. Most plastic balls are made overseas as well, from all companies.
SH
Post by: bonz50 on March 07, 2008, 09:08:18 AM
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The Brunswick balls out of Mexico are the highest quality balls I have ever seen being produced by the company. I was having issues with Brunswick quality before the move, and only ordered in if a customer specifically requested the ball.
Since the move, I am starting to gain interest in restocking the balls. I've drilled quite a few twisted furys, and not had an issue with any of them.
Great job Brunswick.
they were having such quality issues in the mexico plant that they literally were throwing away (as in straight to the garbage) about 1 in 3 balls that came off the line... they were cracking in shipment cuz of environmental variables related to cure time of the resins and etc.... its getting better, but don't discount how many problems they had with that move... fwiw, the guy that engineered that has been moved to a different job inside the company... the balls made in muskegon were of much higher quality... the products people were not happy with that transition... it cost them a TON of money that they haven't made back yet... oh well, what's done is done... no goin back now...
Post by: Rileybowler on March 07, 2008, 09:32:48 AM
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Post by: DON DRAPER on March 07, 2008, 09:34:23 AM
Post by: bonz50 on March 07, 2008, 09:51:32 AM
quote:I don't have pics, just comments from insiders when they made a site visit down there...
Any proof to the 1 in 3 ratio?
I'm not saying your lying, but that is really hard to believe.
quote:fwiw - most development is still done in muskegon for now...
Maybe in the beginning they had alot of problems.. but its what.. almost 2 full seasons in Mexico now? They have to be getting apast the problems by now..
I think they are headed in the right direction. The Twisted Fury is an amazing bowling ball, so they are doing something right!
One thing I am wondering is what is with the 'Made in Mexico' stickers? Lol. I find them funny .. They were on the Avalanches and Twisteds we just got in the shop.. something they HAVE to do? .. or something they WANT to do?
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Post by: jls on March 07, 2008, 10:10:43 AM
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One thing I am wondering is what is with the 'Made in Mexico' stickers? Lol. I find them funny .. They were on the Avalanches and Twisteds we just got in the shop.. something they HAVE to do? .. or something they WANT to do?
Edited on 3/7/2008 10:27 AM
I heard thru the taco vine, that it is required to put on the ball, where the ball is made.
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Post by: BAPSBill on March 07, 2008, 10:18:33 AM
Needed to have them on the balls to let them in to the USA,
according to onr of my distributerd.
BapsBill
Post by: chitown on March 07, 2008, 10:27:29 AM
Post by: jls on March 07, 2008, 10:30:36 AM
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The "Made in Mexico" stickers is a requirement for customs.
Needed to have them on the balls to let them in to the USA,
according to onr of my distributerd.
BapsBill
Their balls have been in the US for over a year, without the Made in Mexico engravings on them. I believe they were told to put those stickers on balls that were allready made, and did not have the Required engravings or stickers on them.
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Post by: chitown on March 07, 2008, 10:31:43 AM
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i saw nothing on hammer's site about anyone complaining about the black widow clear plastic ball being made in china. yet, people will complain and/or boycott brunswick equipment because it's made in mexico.
Greg, i'm sure you can understand why people are upset about this. There's nothing wrong with people being ticked off about yet, another company going out of this country and taking jobs away from Americans. That's what this entire hatred for Brunswick comes from.
Post by: jls on March 07, 2008, 11:01:15 AM
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such old news. Why don't you people get fired up over all the foreign oil we use and the U.S. soldiers that have to die for it? Bowling balls made elsewhere? Who cares? Grow up!
Your so right Cool Daddy,
btw, you left out that golf clubs are made in China. Yet I don't hear golfers complaining.
And I have not seen anything From Brunswick of poor quality, since the move.
And not one defective ball from them in all of 2007.
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Post by: bowlitup on March 07, 2008, 11:23:03 AM
I say, Mexico, Shmexico. Do the balls still knock down pins? If so, then who gives a S? Quit crying and keep bowling. Or keep crying and quit bowling.
On edit: Are the designs and materials not still the same? Just a different production location? If so, it seems like as far as quality goes, there should be no problem.
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Edited on 3/7/2008 1:28 PM
Post by: laddog54 on March 07, 2008, 12:01:07 PM
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my vote for president is green nikes
Post by: laddog54 on March 07, 2008, 12:06:50 PM
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my vote for president is green nikes
Post by: 102101 on March 07, 2008, 12:25:44 PM
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102101? Hmmmm
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Post by: EboKnight on March 07, 2008, 12:29:51 PM
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The Brunswick balls out of Mexico are the highest quality balls I have ever seen being produced by the company. I was having issues with Brunswick quality before the move, and only ordered in if a customer specifically requested the ball.
Since the move, I am starting to gain interest in restocking the balls. I've drilled quite a few twisted furys, and not had an issue with any of them.
Great job Brunswick.
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really... highest quality... hmmmmm...
I sanded a Wizard from Mexico with 400 wet sand and it dulled my sand paper without making a scratch. high quality....... hmmmmm......
What about the Twisted Fury I got with the raised label that I sent back only to get another one. high quality...... hmmmmmm......
ok........
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Post by: EboKnight on March 07, 2008, 12:35:22 PM
I have a lot of friends on staff with "B" and people that love there B balls.
I just want to clear that up.
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Post by: EboKnight on March 07, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
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heres an interesting question to ponder...They moved production to mexico to save money right? I wonder if the amount of money they saved is more than the amount they lost due to bowlers not buying their stuff anymore because of the move to mexico. As far as the on topic stuff, yeah its bad that they cut americans out of jobs, but as long as the reaction is the same, I dont mind.
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wow. i can see your loyalties dont lie with your country.
im p1ssed that all those people got fired!!!
it wasnt worth it...
oh well tho, cant change anything now.
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Post by: bassace on March 07, 2008, 01:19:01 PM
Post by: laddog54 on March 07, 2008, 01:45:18 PM
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my vote for president is green nikes
Post by: Brickguy221 on March 07, 2008, 11:12:42 PM
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I wonder if the amount of money they saved is more than the amount they lost due to bowlers not buying their stuff anymore because of the move to mexico.
I seriously doubt that Brunswick lost any noticeable amount of money from bowlers not buying their equipment because of the move to Mexico. Maybe and maybe not, a few bowlers on this site, but for the everyday bowler that doesn't belong to this site, I doubt they are even aware of the move to Mexico and could probably care less where the balls are made.
And for every bowler lost, they probably gained another somewhere. Take myself for example, I didn't have a single Brunswick ball in my arsenal when they moved to Mexico, but I own a Twisted Fury now and it is one of the best Brunswick balls I have ever had and it was made in Mexico.
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