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dR3w

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Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:08:36 AM »
These two just showed up on the PBA website.  No specs given.
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2014, 12:57:10 PM »
Not to knock anything, but does anyone watch the Intellect roll and think Brutal Nightmare?  Numbers are really similar, roll is really similar . .
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2014, 01:07:59 PM »
Quote from: kidlost2000 on August 26, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Agree on the Brute logo and Mastermind are a bit weak. I'd rather see just the name on the ball vs a bad drawing. Keep it simple. I guess you could have a phallic series. "Brute Punch" would be next maybe.......

The mastermind series, is spot on and 'smart.' Brute seems OK too, just it looks like something that is out of date. 
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2014, 02:03:48 PM »
Quote from: Gizmo823 on August 28, 2014, 12:57:10 PM
Not to knock anything, but does anyone watch the Intellect roll and think Brutal Nightmare?  Numbers are really similar, roll is really similar . .
I don't see that. I've seen quite a few brutals and they all seemed to squirt in oil and be too strong in the dry without a weak layout.
The intellect seems to have a nice strong roll through the deck after it leaves the oil and transitions
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2014, 02:22:34 PM »
I bet this one acts the same . . just looking at the fresh oil vids for both of them side by side, they look really similar.  I have a Brutal . . rolls just like the Intellect looks on the fresh. 

Quote from: SVstar34 on August 28, 2014, 02:03:48 PM
Quote from: Gizmo823 on August 28, 2014, 12:57:10 PM
Not to knock anything, but does anyone watch the Intellect roll and think Brutal Nightmare?  Numbers are really similar, roll is really similar . .
I don't see that. I've seen quite a few brutals and they all seemed to squirt in oil and be too strong in the dry without a weak layout.
The intellect seems to have a nice strong roll through the deck after it leaves the oil and transitions
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2014, 02:35:01 PM »
Quote from: billdozer on August 28, 2014, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: kidlost2000 on August 26, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Agree on the Brute logo and Mastermind are a bit weak. I'd rather see just the name on the ball vs a bad drawing. Keep it simple. I guess you could have a phallic series. "Brute Punch" would be next maybe.......

The mastermind series, is spot on and 'smart.' Brute seems OK too, just it looks like something that is out of date.
the Brute is the same concept Storm used 2 years ago. Low rg, low diff solid and or pearl aka IQ Tour Solid and Pearl. Many companies have been doing this for a while, it is just that the Gold ball took flight unlike many of the others.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2014, 02:40:48 PM by tkkshop »
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2014, 02:59:04 PM »
Yeah . . the IQ Pearl still has a very unique roll to it that's almost hard to identify.  Brunswick was catching up to technology there for a while, but now they're kind of falling behind.  The Mastermind was basically a Virtual Gravity.  It's not that the equipment is bad, it's good stuff, it's just being done years after everybody else has done it . .

Quote from: tkkshop on August 28, 2014, 02:35:01 PM
Quote from: billdozer on August 28, 2014, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: kidlost2000 on August 26, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Agree on the Brute logo and Mastermind are a bit weak. I'd rather see just the name on the ball vs a bad drawing. Keep it simple. I guess you could have a phallic series. "Brute Punch" would be next maybe.......

The mastermind series, is spot on and 'smart.' Brute seems OK too, just it looks like something that is out of date.
the Brute is the same concept Storm used 2 years ago. Low rg, low diff solid and or pearl aka IQ Tour Solid and Pearl. Many companies have been doing this for a while, it is just that the Gold ball took flight unlike many of the others.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 08:12:35 AM by Gizmo823 »
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2014, 04:29:35 PM »
Old technology. Really. Storm has been using R2S for nearly 5 years now. Thats nothing new to the industry. The Mastermind is 10x better than the junk storm has been coming out with lately ( Vivid, Sync, Byte).
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2014, 09:19:04 PM »
Falling backwards?!

This isn't 2009
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2014, 09:35:38 PM »
Utah, Brunswick, and motiv are the cream of the crop right now....that's all I know!
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2014, 10:03:53 PM »
Quote from: BrunsNick on August 28, 2014, 09:19:04 PM
Falling backwards?!

This isn't 2009
It is amazing how that 2009 stuff you mention, rolls better than most new pieces from other companies. Just sayin'. The proof is on tour.
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2014, 10:13:19 PM »
The proof is on the tour, but hype has a lot to do with it as well.
Everyone has preferences, certain people "think" they bowl better with certain companies, and some people just are on a band wagon. The only thing I know is that good pieces are being put out on the market and it's in our best interest to enjoy it.
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2014, 10:14:23 PM »
Wasn't talking about 2009 Storm.

Was referring to 2009 Brunswick vs now
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2014, 10:50:04 PM »
I have to say, the Intellect's motion looks good and the coloring reminds me of the Track 811 C/T.  Even though I don't throw Brunswick (throw a mixed Storm/Roto/Motiv arsenal), Brunswick has really stepped up and put out several good balls over the past few years.
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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2014, 06:01:43 AM »
Some times a person makes a decision purely on empirical, statistical data. Other times a person makes a decision simply on a hunch or appearance. Being away from bowling as long as I was (18 years), I didn't just go on craze or knee-jerk reaction in making ball choices. I did my due diligence by reviewing as much information as I could before deciding to buy my first Brunswick piece, a Burgundy Ringer.

I've gotten some grief from people whom I've bowled against in pot games -- and even the guy who has drilled all my pieces this year. But I've made Brunswick equipment work for me, and that's all that really matters. Not to mention, I'm beginning to see a return on my investment in terms of money made.


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Re: Brute and Mastermind Intellect
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2014, 08:11:30 AM »
Didn't mean backwards, meant behind . .
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