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jjlamoroso

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BVP Ambush
« on: October 12, 2005, 11:55:03 PM »
Cover: Low load particle pearlized,black.Updated version
       of the Fuze Eliminator's cover.
       Finish: 400grit+High Gloss Polish.
Core: RG Min: 2.541
      RG Dif: 0.044

Brunswick characteristics:
      Hook P: 115
      Length: 95
      Breakp: 70

Brunswick Chart Position: N14

 
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dizzyfugu

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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2005, 08:31:22 AM »
We can speculate what coverstock it is... the Eliminator had a solid light load particle version of the Aggressive Reactive coverstock, derived from PK 18. The Ambush has a pearl coverstock and will be polished. Higher RG, lower differential... hmmm. Could be a pearl version of the Eliminator, more length.
Well, I hoped that they would have given it a stronger core with a lower RG and a bit more differential, so that it could handle more oil. But then it would have been too close to the Impulse Zone, I guess?

Nevertheless, the Ambush could be THE hot mid-prize ball for the next year to come. I am looking forward to it.
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2005, 03:05:23 PM »
quote:
We can speculate what coverstock it is... the Eliminator had a solid light load particle version of the Aggressive Reactive coverstock, derived from PK 18. The Ambush has a pearl coverstock and will be polished. Higher RG, lower differential... hmmm. Could be a pearl version of the Eliminator, more length.
Well, I hoped that they would have given it a stronger core with a lower RG and a bit more differential, so that it could handle more oil. But then it would have been too close to the Impulse Zone, I guess?

Nevertheless, the Ambush could be THE hot mid-prize ball for the next year to come. I am looking forward to it.
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Edited on 10/13/2005 8:25 AM


.044 lower differential? What are you smokin bro? When you say something like "lower or higher," make a reference to what you are talking about, because just saying "lower" makes it sound as if the differential is .015 or so.
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2005, 05:15:31 PM »
Won't be even thinking of this ball if it resembles the Eliminator...I thought that ball was a dud.
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2005, 05:47:53 PM »
From the numbers, and from the history of the BVP line, my guess is that the Ambush will have the same inverted-bell core as the other BVP balls.  As such, it seems highly unlikely to me that the Ambush will react like the Eliminator.  If I had to guess, I'd say that the Ambush will be more like a polished Raging Inferno in reaction, but more pushy in the midlane.
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2005, 06:19:51 PM »
Looks lower RG to me!
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2005, 02:02:04 AM »
Stanski, I do not smoke at all. Never make conclusions from yourself...
I referred to the Eliminator, of course, which has a 0.053 differential (more then the Infernos) and a lower RG than the BVP balls, which I consider medium-low RG for Brunswick balls. That's all. I do not think that the Ambush will be a "worthy remake " of the Eliminator, but from the specs it is a ball I have been waiting for for (too) long in the Brunswick arsenal.
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2005, 03:52:44 AM »
So where will this fit in reference to the other BVP balls?
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2005, 04:15:13 AM »
Look at the ball comparison chart... http://www.brunswickbowling.com/uploads/images/811/Brunswick_Ball_Comparison_Chart_Jun05.pdf
N14 leaves this ball in box condition right between the Rampage and the Nemesis. From this chart placement it is less a remake of the Eliminator, but more of a revival of the ShockZone Pro (N13), see also http://www.brunswickbowling.com/uploads/images/1252/Zone_Shock_ZonePro.pdf
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jjlamoroso

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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2005, 06:38:03 AM »
Ambush has an inverted-bell core, confirmation.
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2005, 02:27:26 PM »
Does anybody have the stats on the Eliminator?
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2005, 03:50:08 AM »
Check out: http://www.brunswickbowling.com/uploads/images/1088/Fuze_Eliminator.pdf

The Eliminator still plays in a higher league than the Ambush.
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2005, 11:52:08 PM »
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Stanski, I do not smoke at all. Never make conclusions from yourself...
I referred to the Eliminator, of course, which has a 0.053 differential (more then the Infernos) and a lower RG than the BVP balls, which I consider medium-low RG for Brunswick balls. That's all. I do not think that the Ambush will be a "worthy remake " of the Eliminator, but from the specs it is a ball I have been waiting for for (too) long in the Brunswick arsenal.
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ahhhh ok, just a bit confusing the way you worded your first post, made me think that you were calling 2.541 high rg (really medium-low rg) and .044 low differential (really medium-high differential).

I'm betting that this ball will not be as successful as other bvp offerings. Just hazarding a guess, but from what I have seen out of brunswick particles in the area, they do not seem to match up favorably to house conditions and therefore get labeled as "crap" by a lot of bowlers. I have heard and witnessed on numerous occasions people complaining about the goliath not hooking as much as their old trusty reactive when it is supposed to be a hook monster. Same goes for the impulse zone, and i really do not see a great sales niche for more brunswick particle releases except among more serious bowlers.
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dizzyfugu

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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2005, 02:54:05 AM »
I suppose it will be a good control ball, an addition for later games when the lane starts do dry up and the pattern becomes spotty. It seems to be pretty strong.

I once had a Plum Pearl Power Groove, but it also never worked for me. The coverstock felt nice, much control, but for me it lacked a true core for roll. The Ambush could be the ball I waited for, but in the meantime I got other replacements for this job (A Vicious Attack, great ball, too).
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Re: BVP Ambush
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2005, 11:34:49 AM »
I also so this ball last nitein leauge ball looked like a Black Ice and rolled great but the bowler didn't do it any justice just a grip it and rip it guy. the BVP line is flat out awesome.
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