Post by: jjlamoroso on October 12, 2005, 11:55:03 PM
of the Fuze Eliminator's cover.
Finish: 400grit+High Gloss Polish.
Core: RG Min: 2.541
RG Dif: 0.044
Brunswick characteristics:
Hook P: 115
Length: 95
Breakp: 70
Brunswick Chart Position: N14
Post by: dizzyfugu on October 13, 2005, 08:31:22 AM
Well, I hoped that they would have given it a stronger core with a lower RG and a bit more differential, so that it could handle more oil. But then it would have been too close to the Impulse Zone, I guess?
Nevertheless, the Ambush could be THE hot mid-prize ball for the next year to come. I am looking forward to it.
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Edited on 10/13/2005 8:25 AM
Post by: stanski on October 13, 2005, 03:05:23 PM
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We can speculate what coverstock it is... the Eliminator had a solid light load particle version of the Aggressive Reactive coverstock, derived from PK 18. The Ambush has a pearl coverstock and will be polished. Higher RG, lower differential... hmmm. Could be a pearl version of the Eliminator, more length.
Well, I hoped that they would have given it a stronger core with a lower RG and a bit more differential, so that it could handle more oil. But then it would have been too close to the Impulse Zone, I guess?
Nevertheless, the Ambush could be THE hot mid-prize ball for the next year to come. I am looking forward to it.
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Edited on 10/13/2005 8:25 AM
.044 lower differential? What are you smokin bro? When you say something like "lower or higher," make a reference to what you are talking about, because just saying "lower" makes it sound as if the differential is .015 or so.
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Post by: TJFreaky24 on October 13, 2005, 05:15:31 PM
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Post by: dizzyfugu on October 14, 2005, 02:02:04 AM
I referred to the Eliminator, of course, which has a 0.053 differential (more then the Infernos) and a lower RG than the BVP balls, which I consider medium-low RG for Brunswick balls. That's all. I do not think that the Ambush will be a "worthy remake " of the Eliminator, but from the specs it is a ball I have been waiting for for (too) long in the Brunswick arsenal.
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Post by: NOTHUMB on October 14, 2005, 03:52:44 AM
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Post by: dizzyfugu on October 14, 2005, 04:15:13 AM
N14 leaves this ball in box condition right between the Rampage and the Nemesis. From this chart placement it is less a remake of the Eliminator, but more of a revival of the ShockZone Pro (N13), see also http://www.brunswickbowling.com/uploads/images/1252/Zone_Shock_ZonePro.pdf
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Post by: jjlamoroso on October 14, 2005, 06:38:03 AM
Post by: BallsDeep on October 14, 2005, 02:27:26 PM
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Post by: dizzyfugu on October 16, 2005, 03:50:08 AM
The Eliminator still plays in a higher league than the Ambush.
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Post by: stanski on October 18, 2005, 11:52:08 PM
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Stanski, I do not smoke at all. Never make conclusions from yourself...
I referred to the Eliminator, of course, which has a 0.053 differential (more then the Infernos) and a lower RG than the BVP balls, which I consider medium-low RG for Brunswick balls. That's all. I do not think that the Ambush will be a "worthy remake " of the Eliminator, but from the specs it is a ball I have been waiting for for (too) long in the Brunswick arsenal.
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ahhhh ok, just a bit confusing the way you worded your first post, made me think that you were calling 2.541 high rg (really medium-low rg) and .044 low differential (really medium-high differential).
I'm betting that this ball will not be as successful as other bvp offerings. Just hazarding a guess, but from what I have seen out of brunswick particles in the area, they do not seem to match up favorably to house conditions and therefore get labeled as "crap" by a lot of bowlers. I have heard and witnessed on numerous occasions people complaining about the goliath not hooking as much as their old trusty reactive when it is supposed to be a hook monster. Same goes for the impulse zone, and i really do not see a great sales niche for more brunswick particle releases except among more serious bowlers.
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Edited on 10/18/2005 11:45 PM
Post by: dizzyfugu on October 19, 2005, 02:54:05 AM
I once had a Plum Pearl Power Groove, but it also never worked for me. The coverstock felt nice, much control, but for me it lacked a true core for roll. The Ambush could be the ball I waited for, but in the meantime I got other replacements for this job (A Vicious Attack, great ball, too).
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Post by: Next Level PS on October 21, 2005, 11:34:49 AM
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Post by: BrunsBob on October 21, 2005, 09:24:25 PM
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Post by: TWOHAND834 on October 21, 2005, 09:49:30 PM
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Post by: stanski on October 22, 2005, 12:02:54 AM
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I have to agree with the Goliath being an overall disappointment. For a ball that is supposedly high load particle coverstock, it sure can squirt on the backend. I will suggest the Nemesis over the Goliath anyday. As far as the Ambush is concerned, it will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Big Times. The Big Time is one of the best mid priced balls if not the best. It hooks a ton when dull but easily becomes more skid/snap when polished. I am extremely impressed with the Nemesis and Rampage so far. Looking forward to the Ambush.
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If anyone out there is worried about the scores being too high, try duckpin!!
I know that it is hard to believe, because your eyes are saying "but the ball is just sliding the whole way," but the goliath is almost definately burning up. Modern particle equipment (especially dull/high load pieces) is so funny, in that you can sit there an swear that the damn ball doesn't hook, yet when you get the ball on a flood, it outperforms EVERYTHING.
However, I agree, the nemesis will be a much better choice for a much wider range of bowlers.
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Post by: NOTHUMB on October 23, 2005, 10:29:59 PM
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