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andy257

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BVP Line
« on: October 26, 2005, 09:59:49 PM »
Hi

Now that the Ambush is on the ball comparison chart, the BVP line looks to be pretty complete now. Maybe if the Nemesis was sanded a little to handle slightly more oil then it would be almost perfect. What are people's thoughts on this? Could someone make an entire arsenal out of the BVP line and not need anything else?

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dizzyfugu

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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2005, 06:37:21 AM »
The line is quite complete for medium to medium-oily conditions. Personally, I consider the Goliath to be a "special purpose" ball which is not intended for a broad target group. And Brunswick lacks something like the Slay/R, a ball with a core that works on dry and broken down lanes. The Punisher is too much for this IMHO. Something like the old Red/Black Monster would be fine, too, or the coverstock from the PG Dry/R with the BVP core to deliver a bit more lane reaction.
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Mike E

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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2005, 10:14:46 PM »
Andy, I have both a slayer and a punisher drilled exactly the same with same coverstock prep(1000 grit abralon). There is only a 1/2 board difference in my stance between the two(the punisher being the stronger).These two balls are so close it really doesn't warrent carrying them both. I am planning to put more surface on the punisher to see if I can get more seperation.
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shelley

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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2005, 10:36:00 PM »
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Right now, for the $$, the BVD line IS the most complete..


Yeah, those BVDs have some balls in 'em.  

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charlest

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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2005, 10:59:53 PM »
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Andy, I have both a slayer and a punisher drilled exactly the same with same coverstock prep(1000 grit abralon). There is only a 1/2 board difference in my stance between the two(the punisher being the stronger).These two balls are so close it really doesn't warrent carrying them both. I am planning to put more surface on the punisher to see if I can get more seperation.
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Sorry; not a truly valid comparison as they are designed as polished pearls. Sanding reduces their differences as it does many  balls. You failed to compare them both polished and sanded. That would show their TRUE differences. Polished there would be probably 5 boards of difference. The Punisher, as designed, has MUCH more backend than the Slay/R because the cover is so much stronger. Due to the Punisher's stronger cover it would also probably be usable on more oil than the Slay/R.

I have used the Slay/R extensively, in several drillings, with many surface preparations and on a wide selection of oil amounts and patterns. It is nowhere close to a Punisher except under some very  special circumstances, such as yours (sanded).

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Mike E

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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2005, 07:41:59 PM »
Charlest, Are you saying that if I leave them both at 1000 grit and simply polish them both there would be 5 boards difference? That would really be fantastic and be exactly what I was looking for in the first place when I purchased them both. Does doing this mean that what I am really doing is making the slayr weaker because the cover is weaker to begin with? Thanks for the advice.                          
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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2005, 01:34:54 AM »
I would guess that is what he meant.  The Punisher should be about an arrow stronger, especially in the backend.
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charlest

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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2005, 04:16:14 AM »
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Charlest, Are you saying that if I leave them both at 1000 grit and simply polish them both there would be 5 boards difference? That would really be fantastic and be exactly what I was looking for in the first place when I purchased them both. Does doing this mean that what I am really doing is making the slayr weaker because the cover is weaker to begin with? Thanks for the advice.                          
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Edited on 10/28/2005 9:30 PM


Well, 1000 grit + polish would make them both weaker than stock. I did that to my Slay/R to to try cover even drier lanes than it was designed for.
Don't forget, that stock cover finish for B'wick pearls are 400 grit + their own high gloss finish.

And, yes, that is basically what I was trying to say. I've seen many of my league guys last year use the Punisher while I was using the Slay/r and it is a significantly stronger ball in stock form thanthe Slay/R. (Also don't forget that many house oil patterns make many disparate balls look VERY similar!)
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Mike E

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Re: BVP Line
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2005, 03:41:11 PM »
Thanks guys. Charlest you said in your post that stock finish for Brunswick pearls was 400 grit followed by high gloss. Was this a typo? Did you mean 4000 grit? Was wondering because the product sheet said if more hooking action was needed to sand with 800-1000 grit which I assumed was a lower grit than factory? Was this a wrong assumtion? I just thought the lower the grit the more the ball would bite on the lane? I do appreciate all your help guys.

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