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C System 3.8
« on: November 05, 2009, 12:37:01 PM »
I saw this on Photobucket earlier this evening. I hadn't heard anyone mention as of yet. I was wondering if there was any legitimacy to it.


Here is the link:
http://i718.photobucket.com/albums/ww190/twister869/csystem3.jpg
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 08:46:50 PM »
It's a ball texture for a game called Bowling Evolution.. Completely made up. Sorry guys, lol.
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 09:13:38 PM »
According to what I have heard though, you may see 2 more balls in this line over the next few months... But I really do not know, just a rumor...
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 11:42:02 PM »
There is plans to expand this line as we move through the next year, but not 2 balls in the next few months. We are looking to have one in late January, then if we continue to go forward as expected with this line, we would have a third one by next Summer for Bowl Expo.

3.8 = Nope,  Green/Orange = Nope

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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 01:19:22 AM »
I wonder what will happen to the "leftover" high end line? Has the Siege been a "one shot", last of its kind? I find Brunswick's offering structure a bit confusing at the moment...
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 01:53:21 AM »
dizzy, how do you figure?

TZone
Groove
Avalanche
Snakes
Wild
C System
Siege

Seems fairly straight forward and simple...
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 02:37:43 AM »
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dizzy, how do you figure?

TZone
Groove
Avalanche
Snakes
Wild
C System
Siege

Seems fairly straight forward and simple...



Nick, I agree with dizzy. Could you elaborate and tell us how you position those lines?

TZone - spare OK
Groove - beginners, lots of color choices OK
Avalanche - Mid RG/Low Diff - for higher friction OK
Snakes - Low RG/Mid Diff. symmetrical- late & strong - mid price point OK
Wild - Low RG/Mid Diff. symmetrical - late & strong OK
C System - Low RG/High Diff. Asymmetrical - again late & strong ?
Siege - Low RG/High Diff. Asymmetrical - again, marketed as late & strong ?

It is logical that you have one symmetrical and one asymmetrical "high end" line and one mid price line with proven cores & coverstock. However, if we see another solid from C System line and another pearl from Siege line, don''t you think that would be a definition of overlapping? To me, combination of C System and Siege line is Brunswick''s high end line. I believe dizzy also thought that way.
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 03:17:12 AM »
C System with its 2.568 RG is not low by any means, even higher than the Avalanche series. Pearlized CFT Resin with a high differential to tackle the medium to medium-oily conditions.

Siege with a core system from another world, ultra-low RG, almost maxed diff and enough z-diff to make Mo happy. Propel Solid Resin coverstock to battle the heavy oil conditions and still give you that long and strong reaction.

Have either of you thrown both for comparison? Do you automatically assume that the new C System will be a solid? Hmmmmmmmmmm Maybe there is room on the Reaction Chart to fit in between the two balls.
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 03:33:02 AM »
Yep, more or less I agree with BurakNatal. Since the introduction of the asymmetrcal Zone line and the quick "detorioration" of high end covers and cores into "lower" ball lines, I found it VERY difficult to judge the performnace difference in the higher ball lines - and their value. Buy a high end piece, and half year later you get more or less the same ball in the lower line with a smaller price tag, while in the "upper end" one ball is supposed to hook more than the other, with uncertain differences that would make a decision for me quite difficult?

The introduction of the C-System line has me baffled, since it looks like a new or additional high end line - now there are two lines with just one ball each. Maybe time will tell, but I am still left a bit confused, or at least irritated Maybe there IS a big plan behind it, but it has not become clear to me (yet)?
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Burak Natal

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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 07:56:16 AM »
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C System with its 2.568 RG is not low by any means..

That's my bad.. However, IMHO, it still does not change the fact that there are too much "lines" to confuse minds. There could be less lines with different reactions to cover the different spots in the reaction chart.

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Have either of you thrown both for comparison?

I have Siege, I like it very much. I've just ordered C-System and can't wait to try it

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Do you automatically assume that the new C System will be a solid?

It was just an assumption to explain my case, however, if you can give any "insights", please feel free and be my most welcomed guest
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 09:15:40 AM »
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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 08:52:15 AM »
Dizzy and Burak,

   You are both correct in the sense that we ended up having two high end lines overlapping at the same cost level. Performance definitely has its differences, but we ended up with two lines at that price point. In all honesty, we did not intend this to happen as we forcasted our strategy a year ago, but with what Carmen brought to the table to us, we felt we could not hold out any longer and let this technology just sit there idol. We all agreed at Brunswick that this was a tough thing to do, but we did not want to abandon what we had going forward with the Siege line, yet Carmen Salvino's work needed to hit the market. We don't expect everyone to purchase all of them (although that would be really nice....LOL), but we currently have the widest variety of ball reactions that we've seen in well over the 6 years I've been with Brunswick. Sure, there's a few too many to choose from, but something is gonna match up to what you're looking for, and it's also very easy to build a good arsenal just within the Brunswick brand these days.

Try not to look at it as congestion, view it as options. Very goood options. By the way, we will continue on building on both the Siege and C-System Lines.

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Re: C System 3.8
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2009, 09:36:24 PM »
I tried brunswick 5 years ago... 9 counts all day. Tried several balls... just decided Brunswick and I will never be paired up.

I just got the C system ball... a little axis tilt goes a long way with this ball and friction. Even I can get this ball to roll over the 8pin (im right handed).

I dont know about the other lines... but I for one like this ball.
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