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Title: Chosing a new ball
Post by: Lycan on October 22, 2008, 06:03:02 PM
Hey people just after some advice!!! i am looking to get a new bowling ball and i would like to get a heavy oiled ball i am loking towards a 900 Global Bounty ( that is what my pro-shop is telling me as he bowls for them) but he doesnt no yet he gets that ball next week, Hammer The Sauce but im not to sure about this one as Hammer dont have a good name for longevitie

and the new Twisted Fury Destruction that is coming out but i dont no much about this ball can anybody help me with this problem thanks in advance
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: ayo on October 23, 2008, 02:19:10 AM
wait for the maxxxx zone.
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: Lycan on October 23, 2008, 02:23:02 AM
what type of brand is that???????
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: dizzyfugu on October 23, 2008, 04:34:42 AM
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what type of brand is that???????


It is a Brunswick ball, still in the pipeline, and it will become their heavy oil piece. Another, already avaibalbe option is the Twisetd Fury Solid. The TFD is for less oil, and will also take some time to hit the shops (November?)
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Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: on October 23, 2008, 08:28:17 AM
The Maxxx Zone will be an instant favorite. If any of you owned a Strike Zone and liked it, the Maxxx is also clean through the heads, but with a bigger move late!  (I got this info. from the Great Rico.)

Mine will be drilled up tomorrow or Saturday.


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Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: ayo on October 23, 2008, 12:06:10 PM
maxxx zone ftw! hahaha cant wait to get mine. how different will it be from my ultimate inferno?
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: Lycan on October 26, 2008, 08:49:54 PM
okay im leaning towards the maxx zone as it does look like it has a lot of hooking potential, my pro shop has also suggested the 900 global bounty as well what would be better suited for a low rev bowler bowling from the 5 board on meduim to dry lanes most of the time there medium?????? please people let me no as wednesday i see him again and i need to inform him of what i plan to do!!!!!!1
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: dizzyfugu on October 27, 2008, 04:12:49 AM
If you play that far outside, you IMHO do not need such an oil ball at all, unless you have a crappy release. An oil ball, well, needs oil, and only on true flat sport pattrens you will find some in the 5th board area, and most of the time it is not as long as the inner part of the lanes.

Seriously, I have the impression that either your pro shop wants to sell you "another expensive ball", or that you better invest the money in a coach to improve on your release.
Because playing up the boards hardly need such an oiler - A Smash Zone with a stronger drilling, even if you have lower revs, should be enough, esp. if you call your lanes "medium" or less. The oiler is literally dead when it is half down the lane, will hardly move at all - but it is not the oily lane, just too much ball...

Just my 2 cents
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Edited on 10/27/2008 7:22 AM
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: CharlieBrown on October 27, 2008, 07:01:03 AM
dizzy is right, whether you're a high-rev or low rev bowler, Maxx zone is way too strong for med-dry lane.
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Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: on October 27, 2008, 08:48:56 AM
My first full game with the Twisted Destruction was a 300 on Saturday night. I was playing outside on a pretty slick condition. It appears that it will handle a bit more oil than most pearls.

The Maxxx Zone with the right layout and some polish may work for you, but I agree with those who prefer pearl reactives on the drier boards so the ball isn't "spent" before it hits the pocket.


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Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: ucumin2 on October 27, 2008, 10:42:06 AM
Lycan. First thing you have to figure out is why you think you need heavy oil ball. What's ur rev rate? Speed? Line ur playing?  How equipment is drilled?   You can go out and buy high end heavy oil ball but still may not hook 4 you because of above reasons. I've got high end balls, mid price and low end that all hook. Depending on oil patterns. There are a lot of balls out now that will benefit you from. If ur made of money go with ebonite or hammer. If you want aggressive ball that will last stay with brunswick. Have 2 decide if you want pearl, soild, or particle cover. Copperhead , twisted fury soild are good soilds. Fury pearl is good ball if u can get 1. Or wait 4 new soilds coming out in November. Main thing research ur style first then you will be able 2 make a good choice
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: Metal_rules on October 27, 2008, 11:26:39 AM
how does the max zone compare to the ultimate inferno?  i was told if i could find a strike zone to get one, and ive been thinking of getting a remake of the u.i.  because i love my ultimate, alot.

Edited on 10/27/2008 11:28 AM
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: on October 27, 2008, 01:13:58 PM
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how does the max zone compare to the ultimate inferno? i was told if i could find a strike zone to get one, and ive been thinking of getting a remake of the u.i. because i love my ultimate, alot.

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The Maxxx Zone is stronger than the Ultimate Inferno, in my opinion. I will re-phrase that. It makes a bigger move late on the lane.



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Edited on 10/27/2008 1:15 PM
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: MC on October 27, 2008, 01:17:37 PM
Go with what the Pro suggests as he "probably" knows your style and what you usually bowl on.

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Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: ucumin2 on October 27, 2008, 03:47:33 PM
MC.  NOt to doubt the pro but many not saying all but few just sell a guy a ball 4 the money. Too many unknown facts to be able too tell guy which ball to choose.  DO ur homework on ur style and balls ur looking at
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: Lycan on October 27, 2008, 08:20:18 PM
okay first of all i would like a bowl that can handle oilly lanes as the ball that i am currently useing which is a BVP Wizard doesnt handel to well in oilly lanes the last 2 weeks i have bowled a 491 and a 464 but the previous 3 weeks prior were 570, 550 and a 621 That was becuase the lanes where dry the last 2 weeks have not and i want a bowl that can handel those conditions, my rev rate aint that much most likely 50 revs or something and my speed is around 25km, the line that i am plying atm is 10 board but a guy who works at the centre who has an average of 196 has told me to try on the 5th board since i have a dryer ball but i prefer to go down 10-15 dont ask me how my ball is drilled or how i want it drilled as i have no idea that is for the pro shop to do but i would like a ball that can handel heavier lane conditions and he told me about the bounty only becuase he bowls for 900 global but since i did some resarch i saw the maxxx zone and from what i have hered and been told by somebody on these forums the maxx zone is very good and handles well with medium conditions abd is better suited for low rev bowlers
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: ucumin2 on October 27, 2008, 11:59:49 PM
Lycan. I can tell you this I don't think max zone would be good 4 you. Yes its a medium heavy oil ball but at 600 grit don't see how low rev bowler will be able 2 use. I would say strong pearl or pearl particle would probly be better. Even try surface adjustments 2 wizard. Just hard 2 say without seeing you bowl
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: on October 28, 2008, 08:22:32 AM
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Lycan. I can tell you this I don't think max zone would be good 4 you. Yes its a medium heavy oil ball but at 600 grit don't see how low rev bowler will be able 2 use. I would say strong pearl or pearl particle would probly be better. Even try surface adjustments 2 wizard. Just hard 2 say without seeing you bowl

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Not to argue with you, but I've actually thrown the Maxxx Zone and it's cleaner through the heads than you'd expect. Besides, there's nothing to prohibit someone from adjusting the surface to 2000 or 4000 if necessary.


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Edited on 10/28/2008 8:28 AM
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: ucumin2 on October 28, 2008, 09:09:28 AM
Notclay.  I understand what ur saying but point I was making was why go out spend more money for a new ball.  My suggestion is 2 play with surface of his wizard b4 buying new ball.
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: on October 28, 2008, 11:06:22 AM
ucumin2,

No problem with adjusting the surface on the Wizard either. I love my PK18 coverstock Copperhead, and before that the Wizard. The new Plazma cover on the Maxxx should prove to be very different, in a good way. Only time will tell...


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Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: Lycan on October 28, 2008, 09:24:42 PM
uncum i am not going to using this as y first ball yet i am getting it becuase i want a ball that can handel those conditions if ness and if i have to change where i throw the ball to use the zone then so what i want to use the qizard until i think that i cannot get any better than i already am then go ont the zone but iwant to use the zone or something similir just to get use to the ball first but yeah i know what u mean i will have to adjust
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: Lycan on October 28, 2008, 09:25:55 PM
and notclay what would the surface of like u say 2000 or 4000 do to this ball what would the diffrence be
Title: Re: Chosing a new ball
Post by: on October 29, 2008, 01:22:00 AM
At 2000 or 4000 it will go a bit longer before it turns LEFT. If you purchase one, my advice is to lay it out for the reaction shape you're looking for, then adjust the surface if needed for carry.


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