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Chris Loschetter
« on: November 13, 2006, 04:08:49 PM »
I know he was using a Zone Classic Sunday, but was it really the red pin? According to Pba.com's "In the Bag", it was a Red Pin Zone Classic. If that is true, that thing made the Radical look WEAK! His Zone Classic definitly moved more and he had a better look with that ball.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 12:14:14 AM »
There's no way it was a Red pin.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2006, 12:46:18 AM »
Lol... Thats what I was thinking Joe. I have owned a Red Pin before though and mine actually moved pretty well. I hated how it rolled, but it would get some good length and hook a fair amount. My driller was actually suprised at how mine moved because he said ALL the ones he had seen before, even drilled strong, moved almost twice as less as mine.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2006, 03:27:33 AM »
The heads were burning up and if he got any ball out past 10 the ball would skid. His radical was burning too much energy before the break point that is why it didn't hook as much, sometimes less is more.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 04:42:49 AM »
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I only saw the 2nd to last match, but with as dry as those lanes were playing, I would think a ZCRP would be moving quite a bit if a guy like CL was playing an outside line. Just a thought.
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outside? yea right, do you know what pattern they were on? thats the cliff drop with 500 grit particle, or the 3-6 pocket.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2006, 05:29:39 AM »
As "dry" as the lanes were playing?  Really?  According to Randy and the PBA, the Shark Pattern they were on was in their words, one of the heaviest of the patterns they see out there.  It was 44 feet and heavy.  If it was playing dry, then why was Doug Kent's HawgZilla moving twice as much as his Black Widow?  Why was that really dull surfaced Storm ball that PDW was using hooking more than the BW and anything Loschetter used?  The lanes were not dry.  It is called long, heavy pattern that carried down because of being under the lights.  Even Norm Duke said on a couple shots that the lack of ball reaction was because the ball were not picking up the lane soon enough.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2006, 05:32:34 AM »
One more thing.  I am wondering why if once again Loschetter's ball reaction sucked, why he was not using something more like a Total Inferno or Scorchin.  Not sure why you would want to use a pearl resin on a longer pattern when all the others were using duller surfaced equipment.  I understand that the ZC or Radical is what he may have used during the week.  But we have seen it too many times where what worked during the week does not work on tv because of the lights affect on the lane conditions.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2006, 06:27:58 AM »
I dont think he was lost.  He was around the 1-3.  It was poor ball reaction (hence the almost 5-7 split).  He did not have the right match up for the show.  Simple as that.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2006, 03:10:54 PM »
i dont even know why he would use that radical on something like that...
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2006, 03:16:44 PM »
To me, his reaction with the Zone didn't look that bad.  He just threw it poorly.  Now with the Radical on the other hand, that was a poor match up to the conditions.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2006, 03:21:14 PM »
Sorry for a little hijack here, but this is a serious question. What happens if you use, hmm let's say a Track Robo Rule, dulled up, and drilled to roll early, threw it slow, and played the ball down and in through the oil on the outsides? (on the Shark pattern) This is really a serious question here.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2006, 03:26:22 PM »
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Sorry for a little hijack here, but this is a serious question. What happens if you use, hmm let's say a Track Robo Rule, dulled up, and drilled to roll early, threw it slow, and played the ball down and in through the oil on the outsides? (on the Shark pattern) This is really a serious question here.
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it more than like wouldnt have came back.

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longer patterns = less hook so you want your ball closest to the pocket it can get

Shorter patterns = more hook the farther away you want your ball to be from the pocket.

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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2006, 04:21:19 PM »
You CAN play straight down and in on that pattern if you have enough ball.  On 44 ft of heavy oil, I can dig a trench down 10 within a game with my Awesome Hook.  The pros on Sunday played where they did because the conditions made out of bounds for their style.  If we saw 4 different bowlers, they may have played an entirely different part of the lane.
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2006, 04:32:40 PM »
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hey, did you know Loschetter's wife was a top bowler in college? If they use that one more time, this time it was in the first 2 minutes probably.

yes, snd did you know PDW wears sunglasses? they keep the glare from the lights out of his eyes!
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Re: Chris Loschetter
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 03:58:18 AM »
I think Rick should re-watch the show, the radical that Loschetter was using on tv was burning up so bad that it was dead on arrival, that is why he switched back to the zc, I was impressed by at how quickly Loschetter realized this and made the change right away.

Now if the Radical surface change Rick described on the website, makes the ball hook more on the back end, then I agree with him that Chris should have switched to that one, but there was no video or good description of the reaction differences between the 500 grit abralon or the one with the emery cloth, so I'm not sure if the reaction difference was at the front or back of the lane.

Imo Chris would have been better off with another radical with less surface, unless less surface = less backend. I had an addrenaline that was this way, the more I shined it the less it would snap on the backend, maybe the Radical is like that.

If anyone knows please chime in.
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