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Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« on: May 10, 2005, 08:05:48 AM »
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTE4Mjk2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Original Classic Zone core w/ Activator coverstock. This batch cured too fast, so its characteristics are SIMILAR to that of a Punisher.

Just how hard are they?

Original Zone Classic tested at 76-77 on the durometer.

Red Pin Zone Classic tested at 79-80 on the durometer.

So what does that mean?

The Red Pin Zone Classic will clear the fronts a lot easier when the lanes tend to break down later in the shift. Bowlers like myself who absolutely love the Original will now have a ball that rolls IDENTICAL but is milder.

According to BrunsRicH, this ball will be slightly more aggressive than the Punisher.
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2005, 04:19:05 PM »
So,

  If they were just regular zc's that cured too fast, how did they end up with red pins?

  Or was this something that was done on purpose ( The harder shell ) with a red pin to mark them?
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2005, 12:29:09 AM »
So it has the punisher cover :hammer:

Im guessing the red pin was used to identify them, so you dont have angry customers that say "this ball sucks, it doesnt hook for crap!"  Sounds pretty nice for a tourney condition where the track area is burnt up.
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2005, 02:20:43 AM »
Nick, I'm glade your balls made it there safely!
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2005, 02:29:07 AM »
Thank you!
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2005, 01:26:09 PM »
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pins are put in before pouring if not mistaken, the pin is used to hold the ball, why did these get red pins to begin with (was bruswick planning on an experiment?)  anyone know for sure.  Been so many different stories going around what is one to believe?  such as red piin = zc core with punisher cover, zc core with cured too fast cover, zc with a variation of powerboost cover.  Please tell me Big B is not gonna go back and whore up the market with a bunch of tour edition balls
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They have red pins because they were planning on making them to send overseas.
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They purposedly made them for overseas, then they just hapened to get a cover that didn't cure correctly.  Riiiiiiiiiiiight.  Call a blem a blem.  Every manufacturer makes a mistake once in a while.  BTW, what's your source for this information?
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2005, 01:55:25 PM »
Ball will be approved for PBA use this month.
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2005, 03:36:26 PM »
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They purposedly made them for overseas, then they just hapened to get a cover that didn't cure correctly.  Riiiiiiiiiiiight.  Call a blem a blem.  Every manufacturer makes a mistake once in a while.  BTW, what's your source for this information?
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http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTIwMTcyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Here is the information sheet for the Red Pin, and next time you choose to criticize, use spell checker.
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2005, 04:01:11 PM »
Boo freaking hoo.  I misspelled a word.  The world might come to an end.

What did that link prove?  It didn't say red pin, it doesn't give any info about a different cover than the green pin, doesn't say anything about being made/marketed for overseas....  The casual customer only knows the name Zone Classic.  They shouldn't have to that two balls with the same name might have a hook potential of 75 vs. 115 or a length of 165 compared to 110.

Weren't the Blazing Inferno's recalled or quickly discontinued because the cover wasn't what they intended?  I know people got some of the hard cover and liked them, but that's irrelevant  It's still poor quality control.  Apparently the same problem popped up again.  Again, many people might be happy with the release, but so what?  Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2005, 04:32:25 PM »
*Sigh*

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTIwMjM2NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2005, 04:49:48 PM »
OK, ya set me up for that one.  

Still, I don't believe it was Brunswick's intention to make that exact ball.  If it was, they would have released both at the same time so that everyone would be aware that there was two similar releases, kind of like the X Zone high and low.  Lots of companies use the same core with a new coverstock or vice versa.  There's too many balls being released within some lines such as the Inferno's and X-Factors to take a chance that a customer might but a ball other than than what was intended.  If they wanted to make a less aggressive Classic Zone, they would have given it another name to avoid confusion.
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2005, 05:16:30 PM »
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Weren't the Blazing Inferno's recalled or quickly discontinued because the cover wasn't what they intended?


The difference is that the Blazing Infernos, IIRC, all had the same pin color.  At least with the Zone Classic, it's easy to tell the two "models" apart.

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Still, I don't believe it was Brunswick's intention to make that exact ball. If it was, they would have released both at the same time so that everyone would be aware that there was two similar releases, kind of like the X Zone high and low.


Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.  Maybe they thought they saw a hole in their asymmetric line for the touring players, hence the smaller run of balls with the weaker cover.  That would be *my* guess, anyway.
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2005, 05:42:54 PM »
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coudlnt they have drilled the green pin out and put in a red one?


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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2005, 05:56:09 PM »
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coudlnt they have drilled the green pin out and put in a red one?


Well, there's always a dab of red paint...  
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Re: Classic Zone RED PIN -- Clearing up confusion
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2005, 06:22:11 PM »
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coudlnt they have drilled the green pin out and put in a red one?


Well, there's always a dab of red paint...   [/b][/font=Verdana]



*starts rubbing the pin furiously with acetone*

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