Author Topic: Revolver reaction... (Read 4293 times)

bigearv14 · « **on:** August 12, 2011, 10:56:22 AM »

OK...I have an idea but want some more educated opinions on my issue.

I just drilled a Revolver, Karma, Damage, and Sidewinder. Drilled them all the same (pin in middle finger, CG right). All of them react similar for what they are, except my Revolver. It flares about 6-7" and never really makes a turn. It may be roll out, but something seems different about it. I know it comes at 4000, so there aren't many ways to tame the surface.

What is happening and how can I fix this? I wanted it to be a heavy oil ball, if possible.

Thank you!

charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** August 12, 2011, 08:47:04 PM »

I believe the Revolver comes P500/P4000 grit (That makes it act as if the surface were more like P1500-P1800 grit). So if you sand it to P1000, then P2000, then P4000 grit, it should go longer, conserving some energy for more backend and handle medium to medium-heavy oil, instead of requiring medium-heavy to heavy oil.

The coverstock is fairly strong and needs a good deal of oil, as far as I can tell. If you tried using it on the same amount of oil as the others, I suspect there just wasn't enough oil to prevent it from burning up early. I don't know for sure but it is kind of likely.

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bigearv14 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 12, 2011, 09:32:24 PM »

OK...I didn't know about the 500 underneath. Every time I hear 4000, I assume that it was sanded up through the process...Thanks a lot. That sounds like a great solution and I'm gonna give that a shot next time I see a spinner!

Brandon Riley · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2011, 08:27:55 AM »

I had one and it did the same thing - just kinda burnt out and was a lot rollier than I expected. The entire revolver series is very rolly and this ball is by far the earliest and slowest off the friction of the 3.

Personally I didn't like how mine rolled until I took it down in grit and used it on oilier sport conditions (very impressive on shark/scorpion). Its simply too much shell for most house conditions - especially with all of the bump right.

I find that a lot of Brunswick's high end balls use such strong covers that are then taken way up in grit so that the company can give the ball a higher length and backend rating, because that is what the market wants to see -backend. Do not be afraid to play with the surfaces to match up the equipment to your needs. For me it has been taking pretty much every ball I have down one or two grades in grit in order to get the reaction that I want.

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bigearv14 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2011, 06:24:42 PM »

Brandon,

What surface did you find it to work the best at? I throw 19MPH with about 500+ RPM...I think 1000 would be too low, but what do you think?

« **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2011, 08:03:38 PM »

My Revolver came alive after I polished the cover. Like others have said, the ball at first was reading way too early, except when there was LOTS of volume. On most house shots some polish can help a bunch.

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Brandon Riley · « **Reply #6 on:** August 13, 2011, 09:17:00 PM »

For me to get the ball downlane on an everyday house condition (drilled 4.25" from PAP pin below ring) I needed it with high gloss polish. At that high of a polish it tended to be a bit squirty and defeated the purpose of having such a strong bowling ball. Besides, I had other balls at the time (2.5, 4.5, Anaconda, Wild Card) that whacked the walls so I didn't need it. This ball for me is best suited for going down and in on extremely oily, fresh conditions.

What I did was take the ball down to 500. My revrate is 325 and my speed at the arrows is about 17mph. I used it on fresh medium-long sport patterns (Shark, Scorpion) because it would give me a strong read of the lane as my #1 concern on such conditions is going through the breakpoint. I was able to play in and burn up a look and get a quick bounce off of the friction in the front part of the lane, and also play angles up the gutter on oily conditions. The revolver is a ball that lets you play straight and read the front part of the lane when the downlane area is too wet to provide any help.

I liked my Revolver really dull so I recommend you try the same and see what happens. If it is too much take it up to 1000 and if that is too much 2000. At 4000 it is probably too smooth a finish for heavy oil, yet too strong of a coverstock for your typical league conditions. Remember, it is a low rg symmetric with a super strong reactive shell. It pretty much reacts like a particle so swinging the lane is probably not what you want to be doing with this ball. Save it for oily conditions and you will be glad you kept it in the bag.

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batbowler · « **Reply #7 on:** August 17, 2011, 08:09:55 AM »

I took the surface down to 500 saiair and then used Brunswick ruff buff polish and the reaction totally changed! With the box finish the ball wouldn't carry a corner pin not unless I had a lot of oil in the heads. When the head oil went away the ball loss the backend finish. I could hit the pocket all day, but couldn't carry very well. I have my drilled with the pin in the ring finger and when I changed the surface it changed the backend reaction! the coverstock stock went from a matte/dull finish to more of a sheen with the ruff buff! Just my $.02, Bruce

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bigearv14 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 17, 2011, 09:47:48 PM »

This ball has actually started doing its thing from time to time...great ball to go up the boards without a lot of over/under. I wish I could use it on heavy oil like I wanted, but honestly, this just isn't that type of ball for me. It's my "rescue" ball for tougher shots. Still not making a big move, but it's good to have in the bag.

jerry0503222 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 13, 2011, 07:05:09 PM »

What surface did you find it to work the best at? I throw 19MPH with about 500+ RPM...I think 1000 would be too low, but what do you think?

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bigearv14 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 13, 2011, 07:30:19 PM »

I left the ball at box finish (500, 4000) and only use it on heavy oil. It does not make a big move, but is very reliable when my Karma is pushing through the breakpoint. If it was my primary ball, I think it would work very well taken up to 2000 or 4000, but I think 1000 would be a little much for the everyday house shot.