Author Topic: Ruff Buff vs High Gloss on various surfaces... (Read 1895 times)

Cranking_Inferno · « **on:** March 31, 2006, 03:26:31 AM »

I am looking for someone with extensive knowledge and hands on experience using both Brunswick's Ruff Buff Finish and High Gloss Finish.

My questions are thus:
What is the best surface for a Ruff Buff Finish?
Can you finish a pearl ball with it?
Should you use it on sanded finishes?
What grit finish is Ruff Buff considered to be?
What grit finish is High GLoss considered to be?
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shelley · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:46:47 AM »

The AI and VZ, the two Rough Buff balls so far, have 220-grit bases before the RB is applied. Both are pearls. The Shock and Awe, too, I believe. RB is a compound polish, the ones I've seen are around 1000-grit, maybe 1500-grit. Almost shiny, but not quite. I don't know about High Gloss. I believe HG is a grit-less polish, so it shouldn't change the surface from whatever's underneath, typically 400-grit for Brunswick.

SH

MegaMav · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2006, 11:54:51 AM »

Best Guesses:

Brunswick Rough Buff: 1000 Grit
3M Rubbing Compound: 1500 Grit
Brunswick High Gloss Polish: 2000 Grit

if the surface doesnt change i.e. "Clean N' Dull" the appearance/gloss/length/breakpoint shouldnt either.

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Edited on 3/31/2006 12:54 PM

jjlamoroso · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2006, 02:09:07 PM »

quote:
Best Guesses:

Brunswick Rough Buff: 1000 Grit
3M Rubbing Compound: 1500 Grit
Brunswick High Gloss Polish: 2000 Grit

if the surface doesnt change i.e. "Clean N' Dull" the appearance/gloss/length/breakpoint shouldnt either.

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Edited on 3/31/2006 12:54 PM

So, Megamav, if I sand an Absolute or a Shock & Awe
to a 1000 grit, I will get a similar reaction to the
OOB reaction?
JJ

MegaMav · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2006, 07:14:39 PM »

quote:
if I sand an Absolute or a Shock & Awe
to a 1000 grit, I will get a similar reaction to the
OOB reaction?

to be honest with you...
i dont know for sure...
but what i do know is, 3M Rubbing Compound is 1500 grit.

Brunswick Rough Buff Finish is sheen compared to it
Brunswick High Gloss Polish is much shinier compared to it.

so its an educated guess, could rough buff be 1200 grit? 800 grit?

maybe.

but i think it is within those limits, and definately above 800 grit.

i feel very strongly towards the polish being 2000 grit.

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sweetroll · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2006, 07:36:44 PM »

Rough buff particles fracture as your using it and become smaller. I think particles start out about 300 grit. You can polish a ball up to a very shiny surface with a little ruff buff and some water. You can easily use it to dull pearl balls. If you have a 10x loop you can spread any finish out on glass and see how big the particles are.

shelley · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2006, 07:40:26 PM »

quote:
So, Megamav, if I sand an Absolute or a Shock & Awe
to a 1000 grit, I will get a similar reaction to the
OOB reaction?

Not necessarily. Is 1500-grit sanded the same as 1500-grit polished? Hardly. If you want OOB reaction, make the surface OOB. For RB-finished balls, that's 220-grit sanding, followed by the RB polish.

It may be similar, but I'd expect the RB-finished ball to have significantly more backend than the 1000-grit matte ball.

SH

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