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302efi

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Scorchin cracking ?
« on: June 27, 2006, 05:29:30 AM »


So I'm in the middle of trading my Scorchin' with another user. I take the ball to my driller for him to plug the thumb before I send it out. I'm pretty sure it wasnt cracked when I took it in, but my driller calls me about 10 minutes ago saying that all around the finger holes on the ball are cracking/splitting !

Now the ball has been in my house, with the AC on for a while. I ani't thrown a game with it in while. The day I went to my driller, I did leave the ball in the car for a few hours (maybe 4 hours top). He said that this was most likley the cause of it ?

I have not seen the ball or anything, like said I just received the phone call..

Damn this ball was almost new..
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BrunsMike

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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 02:12:17 PM »
Its possible but I dont see how that could happen, the temperature range isnt that drastic. If it was from the home in the middle of the winter (73*) to the car for 4-5 hours with a outside temp of 10-15*, THEN i could see the chance of cracking happening. Check to see how bad it really is, probably can be fixed if anything.

I had a Columbia 300 TI Messenger that was cracking from the middle finger and started to go around the shell of the ball, took it to my driller and asked him to try and stop the cracking, he was able to save the ball.
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 02:20:41 PM »
Cracking is caused by many factors. The temperature possibility is not likely at all given the time involved. Other factors could be fingers related to pin location, speed of drilling, type of adhesive for inserts. Brunswick isn't really known for cracking unlike Ebonite and especially Columbia. How is your ball drilled?
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BrunsMike

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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 02:28:47 PM »
You got that right about Ebonite! Both my The One and The Big One have both cracked in the bridge between the fingers! I wonder if my Ebonite V2 Sweet will do the samething??

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Cracking is caused by many factors. The temperature possibility is not likely at all given the time involved. Other factors could be fingers related to pin location, speed of drilling, type of adhesive for inserts. Brunswick isn't really known for cracking unlike Ebonite and especially Columbia. How is your ball drilled?
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Mike Zadler
NE Lake County IL
Sanctioned Highs:
775 Series/288 Game
Sanct. Ave. (Ending 2006) 198 (THS)
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
PBA/Sport Highs: Game 225, Series 602.
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 02:34:18 PM »
Hi Mike,

Cracking bridges are normally caused by fingers being drilled to close and/or if the driller used super glue versus a cold adhesive. This can happen to any ball. That being said, the only balls I've seen crack in major ways are the ones I mentioned.
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302efi

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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 02:36:55 PM »
Heres a pic of the ball:

http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic.php?u=22402DRJYk&i=890050

This is from a few weeks ago, when I first listed it for sale/trade.

Looks good to me in this pic ?

Also I should add that I'm in Florida ...Midday summer heat is around 95...and it sat in the car for about 4 hours...Damit
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 02:38:29 PM »
I can't see it at work due to firewall/blocks. Can you email it me? I'll message you the address.
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BrunsMike

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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 02:50:50 PM »
I wouldnt say very well known. The Paradigm and Paradigm Passion are the only 2 that I know that have had cracking problems around the fingers.

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Aren't Storm bowling balls also very well known for cracking?
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NE Lake County IL
Sanctioned Highs:
775 Series/288 Game
Sanct. Ave. (Ending 2006) 198 (THS)
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
PBA/Sport Highs: Game 225, Series 602.
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 06:49:51 PM »
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I wouldnt say very well known. The Paradigm and Paradigm Passion are the only 2 that I know that have had cracking problems around the fingers.

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Aren't Storm bowling balls also very well known for cracking?
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Mike Zadler
NE Lake County IL
Sanctioned Highs:
775 Series/288 Game
Sanct. Ave. (Ending 2006) 198 (THS)
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
PBA/Sport Highs: Game 225, Series 602.


I have not had a urethane ball of any sort crack around any of the drills holes. My Ebonite Maxim is cracked pretty good around the holes.  I currently throw 3 Brunswick balls just to make this topic legal for this forum and none of them have cracked.
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Yeah, none of my brunswick balls have ever cracked, could be a fluke or maybe your driller dropped the ball off the rack by accident and it landed on the finger holes to cause it to crack. Something to think about.
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NE Lake County IL
Sanctioned Highs:
775 Series/288 Game
Sanct. Ave. (Ending 2006) 198 (THS)
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
PBA/Sport Highs: Game 225, Series 602.
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 06:59:37 PM »
Only thing I can see if maybe the lack of bevel around the finger holes caused it. Not sure, sounds kind of fishy for an Activator ball to crack.
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2006, 07:08:37 PM »
95% of cracking issues are fault of the pro shop.  In the thousands of balls that has went through our shop in the past 4 years I've been affiliated, I can count on 1 hand, maybe 2 of balls with cracking issues.  Cracking can be cause by the following:

1. Inserts being flushed without bevel of the hole first
2. Finger pitches that run together at the bottom(like this "\/") that cause a weak bridge.
3. Bridges drilled less than 1/4 inch apart.
4. Holes drilled within 1/8th of the pin, down to the bottom of the pin.
5. Drill press vibration during drilling(#1 cause of cracking/stress cracks)
6. Driller drilling holes too fast(excessive heat will make inner ball material expand and contract).
7. Air cavities in the pour of the ball.

Check all of these signs first with your pro shop(they will most likely not want to admit to faulty drilling), then blame the company/or see what the company can do for you.

I find it humorous the same group of users on this site are the only ones with cracking problems, lets check the home shop first, that may be the root of your problems, not because (xxx) company "made a bad batch".
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2006, 07:12:58 PM »
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1. Inserts being flushed without bevel of the hole first
2. Finger pitches that run together at the bottom(like this "\/") that cause a weak bridge.
3. Bridges drilled less than 1/4 inch apart.
4. Holes drilled within 1/8th of the pin, down to the bottom of the pin.
5. Drill press vibration during drilling(#1 cause of cracking/stress cracks)
6. Driller drilling holes too fast(excessive heat will make inner ball material expand and contract).
7. Air cavities in the pour of the ball.



great list, dont forget, stress from hot/cold amplifies cracking as well.
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Re: Scorchin cracking ?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2006, 08:03:24 PM »
the bridge looks wide enough... prolly driller dropped it or something, im sure brunswick will replace it though
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