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J_w73

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Create my Brunswick arsenal
« on: March 19, 2010, 10:41:59 AM »
Create my 5 ball brunswick arsenal..
if you think I need more add them in..suggested layouts or ball shape for each ball appreciated.
use the slingshot or rumored avalanche urethane if you think they fit anywhere.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
350 RPM, 17 MPH

 

J_w73

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 03:30:50 AM »
so doing some research this is what I came up with..
any help is appreciated... should this be good , any gaps or overlaps?

Mammoth - already have. rico''d sanded to 200 grit
C-system 3.5 - drill 4-4 1/2 pin to pap . pin up
Wild Card - 4 " pin to pap pin down.
Rattler -  4 1/2 pin to pap . pin close to VAL
Sidewinder- already have. 4" pin to pap.. set up for double thumb without the hole

Avalanche and Avalanche slide - avalanche pin down.. slide pin up
or Avalanche green/black and a sligshot  -- g/b pin up.. slingshot pin down or short pin to pap

not sure if I should go to the 5 - 5.5 range with any of them..that is what I usually put on my equipment but I didn''t want anything to get too long and too jumpy.. and over under.

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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185


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bowlingnut07

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2010, 02:58:13 PM »
3.5 c system
Evil seige
rattler
2.5 c system
wild card
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HIGH game 300 (17)
HIGH series 821
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J_w73

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2010, 04:34:25 PM »
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3.5 c system
Evil seige
rattler
2.5 c system
wild card
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HIGH game 300 (17)
HIGH series 821


seems like a little strong.. rattler is the weakest ball and that is for heavier medium oily..
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
350 RPM, 17 MPH

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 04:48:27 PM »
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Mammoth - already have. rico''d sanded to 200 grit

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Is that Two Hundred grit?? And Rico'd?

Or is that a typo?
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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 04:57:02 PM »
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Mammoth - already have. rico''''d sanded to 200 grit

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Is that Two Hundred grit?? And Rico''d?

Or is that a typo?
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."


yes sir. rico''d .. and sanded to 200 grit.

why do you ask ??
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185


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350 RPM, 17 MPH

charlest

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 06:11:40 PM »
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Mammoth - already have. rico''''d sanded to 200 grit

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Is that Two Hundred grit?? And Rico''d?

Or is that a typo?
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."


yes sir. rico''d .. and sanded to 200 grit.

why do you ask ??
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185



For a dull, high load particle ball, for someone with 350 rpms, that's dull, in the extreme. More so, with a Rico driling, which is already early and even.

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 06:26:36 PM »
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Mammoth - already have. rico''''''''''''''''d sanded to 200 grit

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Is that Two Hundred grit?? And Rico''''''''d?

Or is that a typo?
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."


yes sir. rico''''''''d .. and sanded to 200 grit.

why do you ask ??
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185



For a dull, high load particle ball, for someone with 350 rpms, that''''s dull, in the extreme. More so, with a Rico driling, which is already early and even.

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yeah.. it is a little extreme but it seems to work..I really don''''t use the ball that much at all.. I use it on floods or when I just can''''t get anything to move.  Basically the ball is just all cover and does whatever I put into it..
has worked well on some sport patterns and gave me a little bit of area on the Nationals pattern.. not in Reno though.


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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185


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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2010, 06:49:11 PM »
First suggestion, 200 grit is too much unless used for breaking down patterns.

I bowl for a Brunswick school and everyone seems to like the 3.5. Drill as many as necessary
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J_w73

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2010, 07:01:12 PM »
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First suggestion, 200 grit is too much unless used for breaking down patterns.

I bowl for a Brunswick school and everyone seems to like the 3.5. Drill as many as necessary
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I understand it is extreme.. but the ball works.. I can actually use it on a variety of conditions. I don't really use it on a house shot. And if I do, Its an oilier shot and don't seek the dry with this ball. I use it to play in the oil...   Maybe it is me subconsciously changing my release to suite the condition.
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
350 RPM, 17 MPH

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2010, 09:28:41 PM »
Do you use the Sidewinder now, and if so, what conditions does it cover for you?

Also, do you like to play the lanes straighter from front to back, or do you prefer to see more of a change of direction down lane?
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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2010, 09:30:43 PM »
No insult intended. Maybe it's absorbed enough oil to need that rough surface.

In general, I's expect such a strong oiler to be usable on heavy oil with, say, a 4" pin to PAP and maybe a 600 - 800 grit surface for someone with 350 rpms, even given your high than avg. ball speed of 18. But no one can argue with what works.

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2010, 10:49:29 PM »
Are you able to swing the Mammoth?  At that surface it seems like any ball wouldn't turn the corner and carry, limiting you to playing up the boards.

I think you should add this to what you already have

Wild Card
C-System 3.5
Python
Avalanche Pearl G/B
Slingshot
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J_w73

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2010, 11:05:16 PM »
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Do you use the Sidewinder now, and if so, what conditions does it cover for you?

Also, do you like to play the lanes straighter from front to back, or do you prefer to see more of a change of direction down lane?
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I really like my sidewinder.. I used it for medium -medium heavy..
again usually playing inside and in the oil on a house shot.. I don't like to bounce off the dry.. I primarily change my speed, release and angle to play the break at the end of the pattern..
I do like to see the change in direction on the backend.. but the sidewinder is one of my smoother hooking balls..
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
350 RPM, 17 MPH

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Re: Create my Brunswick arsenal
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2010, 11:06:44 PM »
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No insult intended. Maybe it's absorbed enough oil to need that rough surface.

In general, I's expect such a strong oiler to be usable on heavy oil with, say, a 4" pin to PAP and maybe a 600 - 800 grit surface for someone with 350 rpms, even given your high than avg. ball speed of 18. But no one can argue with what works.

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It is hardly used.. I have used it probably less than 20 games..
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18 mph,350 rpm,PAP 5 1/2 x 3/8up, 15 deg axis tilt, varied rotational axis deg.. usually 45+
HighGame 300 x 4, High Series 808
Book Average 205,PBA Xperience 185
350 RPM, 17 MPH