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Gunnz

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Dying c-system 3.5
« on: February 25, 2010, 01:19:10 PM »
Anybody having trouble with their c-system dying?  I've got about 20 games on the ball and I can already tell that the ball is starting to die.  The "pop" I used to get on the back end is gone and it just seems to roll the whole lane.  I was five boards left of where I usually stand (I'm left handed) and it still seemed like it wasn't getting up.  I know it wasn't the shot as it's always the same plus I pulled out my old Shift with about a few hundred games on it and I had to move back five right.  Anybody else having this problem?
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DON DRAPER

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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2010, 09:27:58 PM »
it's quite possible that you aren't bowling on enough oil to fully exploit this ball's full potential. try a change in the balls surface.
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 10:11:50 PM »
I've seen a few people throw the ball, and honestly it has looked like garbage.  Now, it is possible it's burning up too quick, but if that's the case, then there is absolutely no need to drill one of these up for a house shot.

Diandra Asbaty made it look good though.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 10:25:27 PM »
this ball is designed for medium to oily lanes. it also comes from the factory with a coverstock hit with a 500 abralon pad and then a 4,000 abralon pad. this is some serious teeth. mine was scuffed back down to 500 and then 1,000 and 2,000 abralon and polished. i use it at a house that has a top hat oil pattern and keep the ball in this concentration of oil for 35-36'. then you should see the backend reaction when the ball leaves the oil pattern.


ways to solve your problem:

more ball speed
loft
more axis rotation
change balls surface
change angle of attack
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kcbruns300

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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 11:52:36 PM »
The ball does better when you keep on top of the surface.  Buying a $5 SiaAir pad and some cleaner goes a long way with this ball.  I have tons of games on mine and it still is a beast.  2000 SiaAir or Abralon will be about the same as the out of box 500/4000
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2010, 01:04:20 AM »
kcbruns300

2000 SiaAir or Abralon will be about the same as the out of box 500/4000


Is that ture???

Edited on 2/26/2010 2:07 AM
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2010, 01:11:23 AM »
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it's quite possible that you aren't bowling on enough oil to fully exploit this ball's full potential. try a change in the balls surface.


+1! Even the 2.5 already has a lot of traction and does not do well on anything less than mediums. Either try playing truly deep, or simply bag the 3.5 until you see lanes with thick and long head oil. I do not think the ball is "dead", just not used on proper conditions.
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2010, 08:11:36 AM »
After a period of use, bowling balls because of the porous nature of the modern coverstock, need to be taken back to the surface levels being used(dull and polished) that provided optimum performance due to wear and tear. The amount of games can very due to the bowler and lane surface bowled on. Grit levels and polish deteriorate.
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 08:24:35 AM »

Gunnz,

My advice is to try a litle polish first.



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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2010, 12:39:26 PM »
Its also likely that with the surface the ball comes at you need to refresh it every 15-20 games.

Storm and USBC conducted a study and found it only takes 9 games to take a 4000 grit finish and make it close to 10000 grit in the track area, and that can make a very large difference with these new balls that are reliant on RA values.
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2010, 01:26:12 PM »
I have the C-System 2.5 and it is the only ball I have thrown that is stronger than advertised.  I love mine on longer, flat patterns.  The surface on mine is 4000 Abralon.  I agree with everyone that said there is not enough oil for your C-System 3.5 to work properly.
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2010, 01:33:49 PM »
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Its also likely that with the surface the ball comes at you need to refresh it every 15-20 games.

Storm and USBC conducted a study and found it only takes 9 games to take a 4000 grit finish and make it close to 10000 grit in the track area, and that can make a very large difference with these new balls that are reliant on RA values.
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Gazoo and MajicMike have it correct.
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DON DRAPER

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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2010, 04:59:15 PM »
both my c-system 2.5 and 3.5 are very strong and have shown no signs of quitting. as far as i'm concerned both carmen salvino and brunswick hit a home run with these balls.
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Gazoo

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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 08:14:43 PM »
Greg,
Nobody is saying that the coverstocks are not good. Just that it doesn't matter what company, coverstocks must be managed in the modern game. Personally, I am loving the Avalance Solid and Diamondback as a 1-2 punch. Two of the best covers ever!
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Re: Dying c-system 3.5
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2010, 01:26:17 PM »
The 2000 SiaAir is a quicker, easier way of getting to the original surface than 500/4000.  By the Ra numbers I'm not sure if it's exactly the same but it definitely is close. I use this cause that's what the Bruns reps have suggested to me.
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