Ringer is longer but NOT stronger. Will be a stepdown from the Meanstreak.

Far too many variables to definitively say it's one way or the other... as with every ball, YMMV

Kidlost, I got a chance to throw the Ringer over the weekend. It is cleaner and longer than the Meanstreak. The Ringer does corner great. Better overall ball than the any of the Karma's by far. I will say that if the pattern is completely blown apart and the Meanstreak is hitting a little flat, Ringer is the ball to go to. Then becasue it is som much cleaner than the MS, you may have to move a little left. This is due to the Ringer not loosing its axis rotation or slowing down as quickly as the MS. If you start on a fresh surface with both balls drilled the same, the Ringer will be about 2-4 boards less overall hook than the MS.

I too have the ringer just a couple weaker than the Meanstreak on the fresh with "similar" layouts (5" and 5-1/2" pins 30 deg val). On the burn I have them close, but ringer is definitely longer and sharper. I was a HUGE fan of the Damage and huge fan of the Karmas when playing 5th or 6th arrow on the burn, but the Ringer is the only one that when it catches miles of hold in the middle, doesn't just back up to the pocket, it actually tips in the back.

Kidlost, I got a chance to throw the Ringer over the weekend. It is cleaner and longer than the Meanstreak. The Ringer does corner great. Better overall ball than the any of the Karma's by far. I will say that if the pattern is completely blown apart and the Meanstreak is hitting a little flat, Ringer is the ball to go to. Then becasue it is som much cleaner than the MS, you may have to move a little left. This is due to the Ringer not loosing its axis rotation or slowing down as quickly as the MS. If you start on a fresh surface with both balls drilled the same, the Ringer will be about 2-4 boards less overall hook than the MS.

Very nice. Thanks