Post by: Doug Sterner on March 15, 2010, 07:47:41 AM
I even posted them for sale on BR here at a really good price since I didn't see any interest in them locally but I have not gotten any interest on here either.
What's wrong with the Evil Siege???
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Post by: kidlost2000 on March 15, 2010, 06:08:14 PM
Great looking ball, especially when polished as I have seen some others.
What weight and price are you asking?
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Post by: charlest on March 15, 2010, 06:47:03 PM
I understand your frustration, if that does any good.
My perception -
1. The Evil Siege does not stand out from the crowd. Yet another 4000 grit matte finish pearl. Ho Hum! (I suspect it's an excellent ball, but if Joe Bowler does not perceive it's "the answer to all his scoring problems", it won't sell. Joe is a stupid and gullible SOB.)
2. The Siege's have a very high intermediate Differential (Mass Bias strength measurement) which seems to be going out of vouge/fashion. Even Mo has reduced his MB's from the ridiculous, .035", to the barely asymmetric, .011". Such a high MB strength makes the MB placement very sensitive to producing good ball reaction, almost hyper-sensitive.
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Post by: Doug Sterner on March 15, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
looking for $115 shipped in the US.
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Post by: Doug Sterner on March 15, 2010, 09:06:27 PM
although now that I think about things the original Siege never got the respect it deserved either....that ball was overshadowed by the C-2.5....
Guess I got my answer!!!!
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Post by: mainzer on March 15, 2010, 10:03:01 PM
But I got rid of it, will try the Big B again in the future, Like I said good ball reaction nice and smooth easy to read, Was not jumpy or flashy but it got to the pocket. Overall it was a solid ball.
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Post by: Adrenaline on March 15, 2010, 11:23:28 PM
quote:
2. The Siege''s have a very high intermediate Differential (Mass Bias strength measurement) which seems to be going out of vouge/fashion. Even Mo has reduced his MB''s from the ridiculous, .035", to the barely asymmetric, .011". Such a high MB strength makes the MB placement very sensitive to producing good ball reaction, almost hyper-sensitive.
Mo has admitted this is due to Coverstock technology advancements, that those high Int. Diffs are no longer needed to get the ball motions needed today.
This is where cover dominant vs core dominant comes into play.
What is the Int Diff of the Siege anyways?
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Post by: Dennis Rhodes on March 16, 2010, 02:20:13 AM
It is interesting that you point this out. Around here, I am seeing more C-3.5 s. But, the many of the people that have thrown both (and I have talked to), have said that they prefer the ES. It covers a broader spectrum of conditions. But, so many people like the "pretty colors" and the check mark type of reaction and this seems to dictate sales. I find the ES to be much more consistent and I personally find it easier to read the ball without all of the high contrast colors. Don't get me wrong, the C-3.5 is a good ball, it is just not for me.
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