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Title: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Hot Lunch on October 21, 2006, 07:13:34 PM
just need a general comparison. which is stronger in oil, snappier off the break, more versatile, etc.   any info would be appreciated.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: HamPster on October 22, 2006, 08:10:53 AM
Hmm, Rampage, Rampage, Rampage.  I absolutely hated everything about my Fired Up.  Either too early or not enough, flattened out, and was one of the toughest balls to get to the pocket that I've ever owned.  Haven't seen a bad Rampage yet, getting mine drilled this week.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Slopsurprise on October 22, 2006, 03:17:41 PM
Fired up and quite a few strom balls in general=over under city.
Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: BrunsMike on October 22, 2006, 05:44:40 PM
I like the rampage sooo much I have 2 (3 if i get the one back from my dad) and im thinking about getting 1 more NIB just to have as money in the bank. I say that because I feel this ball will be valued in 5-6 years after its been discontinued. Just like the Track Synergy Pearl, cant find them at all anymore and when you do there selling for close to NIB prices.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: charlest on October 22, 2006, 06:37:37 PM
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Fired up and quite a few Storm balls in general=over under city.


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 I absolutely hated everything about my Fired Up. Either too early or not enough, flattened out, and was one of the toughest balls to get to the pocket that I've ever owned. Haven't seen a bad Rampage yet, getting mine drilled this week.


are just one end of the spectrum of opinion. Neither end is quite the truth, The truth is always halfway in between.

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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: BOWL119 on October 22, 2006, 06:38:08 PM
My son throws the RAMPAGE, 15lb and I am very impressed with this ball. He seems to be able to throw it on any THS with consistency.  He stands 21 and throws 15 and the ball is very strong into the pocket. Very strong ball IMHO and a great ball for anyone who wants to buy a new ball and not spend alot of money...
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T.J.

BOWLING IS FUN NO MATTER WHAT YOU SCORE. BUT A 300 IS ALWAYS NICE.

STRIKE ZONE & PYRO. STAND 15 AND THROW 10 OUT TO 5 AND SMASH THE POCKET. AT LEAST THAT IS THE PLAN OF THE NIGHT...
Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: charlest on October 22, 2006, 07:00:53 PM
True, the Rampage seems like an excellent ball; yet many, many posters here complained BITTERLY, a few months ago, about how much over/under it was. Now that someone is asking about the Rampage vs the Fired UP, all of a sudden the Rampage is no longer over/under, but the Fired Up is. So what's going on here?

Where does the truth lie??????
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Goof1073 on October 22, 2006, 07:10:13 PM
Honestly it all depends on the oil volume / pattern and surface you are bowling on.  In general though all of the fired ups in my area out hook the few rampages that I've seen.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: leftehh- LG on October 22, 2006, 07:42:26 PM
I never matched up with the fired-up execpt once. This ball requires backend or this ball never really starts up. Ive seen quite a few rampages thrown even by people who dont throw the ball that well and it still looks awesome.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Slopsurprise on October 22, 2006, 08:00:57 PM
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True, the Rampage seems like an excellent ball; yet many, many posters here complained BITTERLY, a few months ago, about how much over/under it was. Now that someone is asking about the Rampage vs the Fired UP, all of a sudden the Rampage is no longer over/under, but the Fired Up is. So what's going on here?

Where does the truth lie??????
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Comparing the Rampage to the fired up, I would say the one that is over under is the Fired up. I dont match up all that well to the Fired up and most storms for that reason. If I hurt your feelings by saying that about the Fired up, I am sorry but, my opinion was asked and I gave it. It all depends on the bowler, the shot, and the drilling dosent it? Plus, it is all subjective to a degree.
Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: BOWL119 on October 22, 2006, 08:10:30 PM
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True, the Rampage seems like an excellent ball; yet many, many posters here complained BITTERLY, a few months ago, about how much over/under it was. Now that someone is asking about the Rampage vs the Fired UP, all of a sudden the Rampage is no longer over/under, but the Fired Up is. So what's going on here?

Where does the truth lie??????
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Comparing the Rampage to the fired up, I would say the one that is over under is the Fired up. I dont match up all that well to the Fired up and most storms for that reason. If I hurt your feelings by saying that about the Fired up, I am sorry but, my opinion was asked and I gave it. It all depends on the bowler, the shot, and the drilling dosent it? Plus, it is all subjective to a degree.


Plus, the only person that can really make any decision about a ball is the bowler themselves. Or someone that has watched them bowl and know what style they are and what they are bowling on. But when an opinion is asked, everyone gives theirs and there is nothing worng with that. So SLOP, keep giving your opinion.
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T.J.

BOWLING IS FUN NO MATTER WHAT YOU SCORE. BUT A 300 IS ALWAYS NICE.

STRIKE ZONE & PYRO. STAND 15 AND THROW 10 OUT TO 5 AND SMASH THE POCKET. AT LEAST THAT IS THE PLAN OF THE NIGHT...
Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Slopsurprise on October 22, 2006, 08:16:18 PM
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True, the Rampage seems like an excellent ball; yet many, many posters here complained BITTERLY, a few months ago, about how much over/under it was. Now that someone is asking about the Rampage vs the Fired UP, all of a sudden the Rampage is no longer over/under, but the Fired Up is. So what's going on here?

Where does the truth lie??????
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Comparing the Rampage to the fired up, I would say the one that is over under is the Fired up. I dont match up all that well to the Fired up and most storms for that reason. If I hurt your feelings by saying that about the Fired up, I am sorry but, my opinion was asked and I gave it. It all depends on the bowler, the shot, and the drilling dosent it? Plus, it is all subjective to a degree.


Plus, the only person that can really make any decision about a ball is the bowler themselves. Or someone that has watched them bowl and know what style they are and what they are bowling on. But when an opinion is asked, everyone gives theirs and there is nothing worng with that. So SLOP, keep giving your opinion.
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T.J.

BOWLING IS FUN NO MATTER WHAT YOU SCORE. BUT A 300 IS ALWAYS NICE.

STRIKE ZONE & PYRO. STAND 15 AND THROW 10 OUT TO 5 AND SMASH THE POCKET. AT LEAST THAT IS THE PLAN OF THE NIGHT...


I fully intend to keep giving my opinion when it is asked for.
Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: HamPster on October 22, 2006, 08:23:15 PM
Um, I frequent this forum, and the only ball I've really seen complaints about is the Radical, I can't remember seeing really anything negative about the Rampage, and I haven't seen an over/under Rampage myself.  I've drilled quite a few of them for people . . and a few Fired Up's, I was just relating my own personal experience.  If we want to get into the experience I've had drilling both these balls for other people, we can, I just didn't figure there was a need to.  An opinion was asked, and opinions are being offered, since when is an opinion wrong?  The majority rules in someone making a decision, since when does that not count anymore?  I was offering up what I've seen.  Haven't seen a good Fired Up, haven't seen a bad Rampage, how does my opinion count for any less than anyone else's whether they agree with me or not?  What makes one person's opinion worth any more than another's?  Is there EVER a clear cut definite opinion about one ball or another?  I'm sure there was someone out there that actually liked their Savage Flip or X-Factor Ace, but my experiences don't put me in their camp.  There are people that haven't liked their Classic Zone Red Pins, but I wouldn't go to a tournament without mine, so again, who's right?  Aren't we splitting hairs here?  People complain about their Smokin Infernos too, I've loved both that I had.  I can see where it'd be a horrible ball for some people, but it works for me.  I haven't seen the Fired Up work for anyone, and I haven't seen the Rampage miss yet, and I've drilled probably 15+ Rampages and 5 or 6 Fired Ups, not to mention all the others I've seen thrown and heard people talk about.  Why are we getting so upset about another dime a dozen ball comparison post?
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: charlest on October 22, 2006, 08:55:29 PM
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True, the Rampage seems like an excellent ball; yet many, many posters here complained BITTERLY, a few months ago, about how much over/under it was. Now that someone is asking about the Rampage vs the Fired UP, all of a sudden the Rampage is no longer over/under, but the Fired Up is. So what's going on here?

Where does the truth lie??????
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."

Comparing the Rampage to the fired up, I would say the one that is over under is the Fired up. I dont match up all that well to the Fired up and most storms for that reason. If I hurt your feelings by saying that about the Fired up, I am sorry but, my opinion was asked and I gave it. It all depends on the bowler, the shot, and the drilling dosent it? Plus, it is all subjective to a degree.


Didn't hurt my feelings one iota; I was just trying to get to the crux of the matter. I have no axe to grind, one way or the other (although I always have 2 or more Brunswick balls in my arsenal at all times; not so much a Storm fan in recent days.) . A whole lot of such a topic has to do with the feelings of the people who actually respond to this post (feelings about the ball, that is).

WHat I was pointing out was that many people said the Rampage was an over/under monster a short while back (honestly) and now the main repliers are saying that the Fired-Up is more over/under than the Rampage.

I insist, that the truth is ALWAYS half-way in between such "controversies".

By the way, drillings, surface mods and proper usage will make either ball not flippy. Drillings, surface mods and improper drillings can make either of these balls all but unusable.


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Edited on 10/22/2006 8:51 PM
Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Djarum on October 23, 2006, 01:14:57 PM
I have a fired up. I've never had an over under problem with this ball, unless there is carry down. But this is going to happen with any pearl ball. I've found that I can play this ball from medium oily down to medium dry lanes just fine. It even works on broken down shots as long as you can get the ball into the track area. I've found that when I first bought this ball, it really needed to track before it started to shine, say 10-20 games. Can't compare it to the Rampage, since I have not see one in action.

Dj
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Joe Jr on October 23, 2006, 01:28:09 PM
I would assume the Fired up to be the more over/under of the 2, strong skid/flip pearls are generally over/under nightmares. I haven't had a problem with the Rampage, it's a little weaker then the Fired Up (which keeps it out of the those heavier patterns), and the PK18 revs up strong in the mids giving it a little more controllable backend reaction.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Nails on October 23, 2006, 01:55:05 PM
I agree with Charlest.

One week, someone will be asking about something smooth for a sport shot and everyone will say ball X.  A week later someone will be looking for a flip monster and everyone will say ball X again.  I'd look for specific examples, but I don't have the time right now.  In any case, I think people are quick to recommend a ball they love, whether or not it will fit the needs of the poster.

To partially answer the question, the Fired up will be snappier and the Rampage will be more versatile.  No big surprise since I would rarely call a big back end ball versatile.  Neither would be my first choice for any real oil, so I can't help at all there.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: charlest on October 23, 2006, 04:11:44 PM
Now I feel I'm seeing some more realistic answers.
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Title: Re: fired up vs. rampage
Post by: Nails on October 24, 2006, 02:12:07 PM
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Now I feel I'm seeing some more realistic answers.
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Which means that the topic is now dead.  
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