Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: Boss_Hog on April 26, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
Title: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: Boss_Hog on April 26, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
Still can't find a in between ball.
Nexus Solid 4000
CSystem 4.5 500 w/ Rough Buff
Slingshot 4000 w/ Factory Finish
Want to get rid of the 4.5 and need something in between.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: NoseofRI on April 26, 2012, 05:47:33 PM
I understand you posted this in the Brunswick forum but there are more than enough balls out there to fill the gap throughtout all the companies.
If you aren't on staff or getting paid to throw their stuff, there is honestly zero reason to limit yourself.
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: mainzer on April 26, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
I disagree, i would stick with Brunswick if you are comfortable with the reaction of their equipment. Keeping the number of cores and covers to a minimum keeps Bowling as simple as possible.
Just my thoughts
MainzerPower
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on April 26, 2012, 06:39:46 PM
How is one "limiting one's self" by using only Brunswick with the excellent equipment in the Big B line up? Curious.
Don't believe in the Uzi, it just went off in my hand. I, I believe in love.
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: NoseofRI on April 26, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Mainzer,
There is a very big difference between being comfortable with a brand, and having the best option in your bag. I'm not even going to touch upon the lack of choices in the brunswick line up right now.. (wait guess I just did).
I'm not knocking Brunswick at all, but when you have every ball reaction characteristic, core and cover available to you, why limit yourself when you aren't getting paid or at least on a staff deal?
Plus, I would put the challenge that someone having a variety of equipment will fair much better than someone with strictly one brand over a long run of tournaments.
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: NoseofRI on April 26, 2012, 06:51:15 PM
I'll make this very simple:
Because other brands can create reactions that no layout or surface adjustments can create on a brunswick ball and vise versa.
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: DON DRAPER on April 26, 2012, 07:01:17 PM
You're forgetting the bowlers ability and skill to make fewer pieces of equipment work.......
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: Brian Green on April 26, 2012, 07:34:53 PM
Versa max. Nuff said
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Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: baer300 on April 26, 2012, 08:37:02 PM
Versa Max is extremely versatile. Very Very good ball!!
Adam Baer Brunswick Regional Staff Vise Regional Staff The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: Effybowler on April 26, 2012, 11:13:51 PM
Nose, there was no reason to take this thread that didn't specify "only brunswick" and automatically make it out to be that way, bash the brand, and post no helpful choices to fill that spot! Bash them if you want, but at least answer the question.
Boss, it depends on the reaction you are looking for. if you like the rolly reaction you see with the nexus and brunswick in general, then perhaps a versa-max would be good. If you want something that truly bridges the very strong nexus and very weak slinghot, I'd check out maybe a massive damage or a karma solid which will be on the weaker side. Depends on what you don't like about the 4.5. If you're into other brands, the frantic looks to be a very good medium ball that you coudl do a lot with, and everything about the victory road series looks fantastic. Not familiar enough with any of the ebonite brands to suggest a good medium ball other than maybe the hybrid freeze.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: islenmetfan4life on April 26, 2012, 11:43:04 PM
if you want to stay in the brunswick family, the versa max is the ball to get. if you're open to other companies i'd say either a crossroad/marvel pearl, elevate, or epidemic would fit nicely. that's a huge gap between the nexus and slingshot that many different types of balls could fill
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: BrunsWolf on April 27, 2012, 12:00:28 AM
I'll echo what others have said, no bag is complete without a Versa Max. Therefore, if you wanted to just replace the 4.5, I couldn't suggest the Versa Max any more. That being said, if you decide that you also want to add one more ball, I think a solid Karma or pearl Karma would fit nicely between the Versa and the Slingshot.
Jared Wolf
Brunswick Technical Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: TTforshort on April 27, 2012, 12:42:08 AM
Asking about ball recommendations in a specific brand forum, don't you think that is the brand they want? I don't go to the Track forum to ask about Lane 1 balls.
TT
“A word to the wise ain’t necessary — it’s the stupid ones that need the advice.â€.
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: mainzer on April 27, 2012, 01:07:01 AM
From what I have seen every one of the big companies creates a ball for all reactions and conditions. To say that one companies is better than anothers is hard to prove.
I disagree with the last statment, to many covers and cores can create confusion when going from ball to ball in tourney play. I would rather take two of the same ball one drilled strong and one drilled weak ball up or down as needed than go from company to company.
Mainzer,
There is a very big difference between being comfortable with a brand, and having the best option in your bag. I'm not even going to touch upon the lack of choices in the brunswick line up right now.. (wait guess I just did).
I'm not knocking Brunswick at all, but when you have every ball reaction characteristic, core and cover available to you, why limit yourself when you aren't getting paid or at least on a staff deal?
Plus, I would put the challenge that someone having a variety of equipment will fair much better than someone with strictly one brand over a long run of tournaments.
I disagree, i would stick with Brunswick if you are comfortable with the reaction of their equipment. Keeping the number of cores and covers to a minimum keeps Bowling as simple as possible.
Just my thoughts
MainzerPower
MainzerPower
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on April 28, 2012, 09:25:18 AM
VERSA MAX!
Extremely versatile with cover changes. A ball that just READS the lane (I know, a novel concept).
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on April 29, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
+1
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: batbowler on May 07, 2012, 12:19:21 AM
A pin up and pin down Versa-Max will cover a lot of different conditions and bowlers!! Just my $.02, Bruce
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: NoseofRI on May 14, 2012, 04:06:22 PM
<div>Nose, there was no reason to take this thread that didn't specify "only brunswick" and automatically make it out to be that way, bash the brand, and post no helpful choices to fill that spot! Bash them if you want, but at least answer the question.</div><div> </div><div>Boss, it depends on the reaction you are looking for. if you like the rolly reaction you see with the nexus and brunswick in general, then perhaps a versa-max would be good. If you want something that truly bridges the very strong nexus and very weak slinghot, I'd check out maybe a massive damage or a karma solid which will be on the weaker side. Depends on what you don't like about the 4.5. If you're into other brands, the frantic looks to be a very good medium ball that you coudl do a lot with, and everything about the victory road series looks fantastic. Not familiar enough with any of the ebonite brands to suggest a good medium ball other than maybe the hybrid freeze.</div><div> </div><div> Good luck!</div>
Effy, I don't know what you are talking about saying I bashed the brand? And I took it as an only Brunswick thread because it was posted in the Brunswick forum. I did actually answer the question in suggesting to check out other brands. Without out seeing Boss_Hog bowl or know anything about how he throws the ball I can name off easily 20 bowling balls to fit between a Nexus Solid and a Slingshot. But honestly what good would that do?
Title: Re: Forever Filling The Gap
Post by: NoseofRI on May 14, 2012, 04:18:51 PM
Mainzer, we cleary have different thought processes about setting up an arsenal. I've been to many tournaments where a certain ball drilled different has made no difference on the lane because of the simple fact that it stil creates the same shape. Which is why I feel having a different ball altogether is a much better option than the same ball with different surface prep and layout. There are more times when I ball just doesn't read the lane correctly because of core rather simple surface prep. This is when you need a different ball, different shape all together. Just my feelings, but I do also understand your side.
<div>From what I have seen every one of the big companies creates a ball for all reactions and conditions. To say that one companies is better than anothers is hard to prove. </div> <div> </div> <div>I disagree with the last statment, to many covers and cores can create confusion when going from ball to ball in tourney play. I would rather take two of the same ball one drilled strong and one drilled weak ball up or down as needed than go from company to company.</div> <div> </div> <blockquote style="margin-right: 0px" dir="ltr"> <div style="font-size: 10pt"><em> <fieldset><legend><a href="javascript:UserProfile(32332);">NoseofRI</a> wrote on 4/26/2012 4:47 PM:</legend><em> <div>Mainzer, </div>
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<div>Plus, I would put the challenge that someone having a variety of equipment will fair much better than someone with strictly one brand over a long run of tournaments. </div>