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FranVarin

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Radical vs. Absolute
« on: June 03, 2007, 06:19:05 AM »
I was curious if anyone has compared these two balls side by side with similar drillings. It looks to me like they are pretty close with the Radical having perhaps a bit more length and angularity in the back-end.

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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2007, 07:33:23 PM »
I agree.
I'd say:
Consider the Absolute to be a medium to medium-heavy oil ball, depending on drill and your "hand". Consider it to be possibly one of the 10 best and most versatile resin balls ever made.

Consider the Radical to be the equivalent of a skid/flip pearl, with the stock cover finish, for the "average" drill. Consider it to be a condition-specific ball, for most people.
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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2007, 09:37:38 PM »
Thanks guys... I have an AI that I picked up when they first came out. I happen to agree that the AI is one of the best around. The Vapor Zone isn't bad either. I find I can use that when the AI over reacts a bit.

I was looking at the specs for the Radical and it seemed close on paper to me. The interesting thing is that I don't see many people throwing the Radical.
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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 12:00:38 PM »
Brunsnick...you out there.

You may have a new project.

Edited on 6/4/2007 12:02 PM
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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 10:00:27 PM »
The Absolute is being discontinued, I try to only compare balls still in the lineup.


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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 10:07:49 PM »
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The Absolute is being discontinued, I try to only compare balls still in the lineup.


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And Brunswick stabs itself in the foot yet again ...in my opinion.

They're discontinuing their best ball since the Danger Zone??
Could this be yet another decision by committee?
(No, I'm not trying to be funny. This is not a funny subject.)
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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2007, 10:11:52 PM »
It has just run its course.

Been out for over 2 years now, served well, but the Infernos are going bye-bye one by one.
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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2007, 05:43:14 AM »
It's a sad day... I'll miss a couple of the Infernos. But, I'm sure that Brunswick would not just drop a line that was very successful for them if they did not feel confident they could replace it with something just as good, if not better. So, my curiosity is peaked. It doesn't look like the Fury has been the ball they hoped though. It seems that replacing the Inferno line leaves them with some pretty big shoes to fill.
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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 05:28:35 AM »
Thanks Bob, I'm getting the impression from some of the feedback that the Radical is closer to the OI with more back-end angle. My assumption from the specs was that it was intended to be like the AI but more angular. It looks like my assumption was incorrect.
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Re: Radical vs. Absolute
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 06:00:59 AM »
Second Bob's impression. The AI handles a little more oil and reacts less violent to dry boards. The RI is for many players who use them around here very specific. It works well - or not. Seems to be very condition specific, but handles lighter conditions well, needs less head oil than the AI. The AI appears to me to be the "better" or more verstaile ball, even though the RI can be "saved" if you experiment with the surface and with drlling adjustments once it is punched up, e. g. through a balance hole.

Just to offer another option: the Awesome Flip from MoRich (as well as the older Shock & Awe) also uses the AI's Activator+, but with a strong asymmetrical core that has a more powerful mass bias than the VZ.
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