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DP3

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Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« on: July 17, 2006, 08:50:40 AM »
I've noticed that alot of you B guys have a variety of Classic Zones to throw.  I was just wondering what layout provided the most versatile look from pattern to pattern.  When I had one about 1 1/2 years ago it was pin under middle(4" to PAP at that time, now it'd be like 6" to PAP) with a strong PSA placement and it was really versatile, but my game then and now is night and day.  Just brain picking, I'm drilling one up Thursday.
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Jason Kovack

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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2006, 05:22:39 PM »
For me personally, I cant go wrong with the pin 4 1/2 at PSA at 30 degrees.  On a shiny Classic it gives that clean thru the heads look and strong backend, and fuzzy it reads the midlane well and controls the backend.  I think the reason we all have more than one is cause it is so versatile.  Look for the same thing from the Red Zone.  Everyone that said this is just a shiny Strike Zone could not have been more wrong!!!!
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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2006, 05:26:35 PM »
I've been having a great deal of success with 60-degree layouts in the asym Zones, using pin positions anywhere between 4 1/2" and 5 3/4" from PAP, both above and below the fingers.  But I tend to like to play 'em straighter through the front than most.

Pardon the dumb question, but wouldn't a 30-degree layout be just a bit *too* responsive on house patterns for those with more than average hand?
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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 07:57:01 PM »
i had great success with the pin butted right up next to the ring finger, the cg swung a hair towards the center of the grip and the psa just under the thumbhole. i used this ball wetsanded as coarse as 800 grit and as shiney as 4,000 grit wetsanded and highly polished. i used it straight down the 4 board and swinging the 5th arrow---and every line in between. great reaction from all surface adjustments and from every angle.
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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2006, 08:22:21 PM »
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Basically what everyone is trying to say is.. any layout for a Zone Classic works.. I've literally seen them drilled everyway possible and they work great.

Overall, drill it anyway you like and it will be a great ball.. since basically, it's impossible to drilling a Classic wrong!

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Then why does Brunswick warn about putting the PSA in the track?  
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Jason Kovack

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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2006, 09:11:25 PM »
I have a friend, Dan Maclelland who has a Classic drilled with the PSA in his track.  Everyone told him when he got it that it was not right, but after probably 1000 games it's still in his bag and is his go to ball.  So I guess it just depends on the bowler....
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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2006, 09:31:43 PM »
There's a guy in our Thursday league who has a Vapor Zone with the PSA in his track.  He never thumps *anything,* and when there's some launchpad in front, he carries the world with it.

And OBTWICYWTK, I also have a Classic drilled 4 1/2" by 75 degrees, and I have to pick my spots with it because of how pushy it is in the midlane.  That, and it has a definite inside limitation, which isn't a problem with the stuff I have with 60-degree layouts.
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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2006, 06:37:51 PM »
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I have a friend, Dan Maclelland who has a Classic drilled with the PSA in his track.  Everyone told him when he got it that it was not right, but after probably 1000 games it's still in his bag and is his go to ball.  So I guess it just depends on the bowler....
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I know Danny Mac, bowls for Saginaw and throws one hell of a rock.  I've seen him throw his Classic with the PSA in the track and was in awe of how he got it to roll so well.  Doesn't he have a Vapor drilled like that too if I am not mistaken?  I took a bowlersMAP analysis monday morning/afternoon and I was recorded at 18.6 avgerage release speed and 320RPM average with 18 degrees tilt and axis rotation of 75 degrees.  D Mac has a wayyyy more contrasting style than I so I'd be careful copying any of his layouts for myself.  

Thanks for all the helpful input everyone.  I am going to go with a 4" pin to PAP placement 1 1/2 above the midline and a 6" PSA to PAP placement.  Hopefully there is enough topweight to add an x-hole inside the VAL.  Should scribe me a smooth banana shape with an early read which I want since I have the tendency to "throw it through the window" at times
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Re: Getting the most versatile look out of a Classic Zone.
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2006, 06:48:42 PM »
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Basically what everyone is trying to say is.. any layout for a Zone Classic works.. I've literally seen them drilled everyway possible and they work great.

Overall, drill it anyway you like and it will be a great ball.. since basically, it's impossible to drilling a Classic wrong!

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Well I had a Classic drilled with the PSA on the neg. side. I got a real inconsistent roll out of it and it wasn't versatile at all. After getting it re-drilled with the C.g. and PSA kicked out it rolls so much better.
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