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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: htotheizzo3561 on July 03, 2004, 08:12:03 AM

Title: Goliath
Post by: htotheizzo3561 on July 03, 2004, 08:12:03 AM
This is another purple heavy load particle ball.  Brunswick hook Scale is 1-150, this is a 160 out of a new 1-175 scale.  Why would anyone buy a Goliath, just wait for something with a hook rating of 175, or better yet, a 185.  Brunswick, why change the scale, just make it from 1-39,(39, for the number of boards on the lane) and if this is 39 I would be greatly suprised!!
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: a_ak57 on July 03, 2004, 11:20:06 PM
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Brunswick, why change the scale, just make it from 1-39

Uh.......

Don't change the scale, but change it to 1-39?........................Okaaaaay.......
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Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: htotheizzo3561 on July 03, 2004, 11:25:46 PM
Well, why not?  it would provide the best accurate scale for the consumer?  There are not 40 boards in a lane, the 20 is only counted once.  If a rating of 5 was given, a spare or entry level ball would result, a 20+ would be a high performance ball.
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: a_ak57 on July 03, 2004, 11:28:13 PM
Nah, I'm just messing with you.........

I can see what you're talking about though, but you just know that some newbies will think that the ball will really hook 39 boards or whatever no matter how they throw it........I can just see the looks on their faces....
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Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: htotheizzo3561 on July 03, 2004, 11:39:50 PM
Yeah I see your point, throwing a ball with a rating of 39 with one rev will not hook 39 boards.  Anyway, its better to give BIG numbers than small ones.

Edited on 7/3/2004 11:38 PM
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: RSalas on July 03, 2004, 11:47:22 PM
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Why would anyone buy a Goliath, just wait for something with a hook rating of 175, or better yet, a 185.


Because it has the highest hook rating of anything in the Brunswick line (or rather, it will, once it's available to the unwashed masses ).

To take it a step further, when something does come out with a 175 or 185 hook rating, why buy it when you know that a ball with a 200 hook rating is right around the corner?

Personally, I probably *won't* buy a Goliath;  I can't see that I'd need a ball that hooks that much.  
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: htotheizzo3561 on July 03, 2004, 11:55:43 PM
Curse, I agree with you, my Super carbide bomb is too much ball now for the oil patterns I face.
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: RandyO on July 04, 2004, 12:13:51 AM
Until I start throwing some tournaments again, I rarely need anything more aggressive than a higly polished Fire Quantum. Oil? What's that?
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: seadrive on July 04, 2004, 10:15:00 AM
This one goes to 11...
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Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: CoachJim on July 04, 2004, 10:36:15 AM
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This one goes to 11...  


LMAFO....Wait isn't this the same as the others except they stuck 11 after the 10?


This one goes to 11... then walks away..........
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: twister on July 04, 2004, 02:01:09 PM
This may sound a little stupid but isn't these dull boring colors the reason the fuze eliminator, swamp monster, and warp zone didn't move that well. I'm notsaying they're not great oil balls, it's just the fact the average consumer and even some of the better bowler are swayed by cool colors over performance.
Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: Mike Austin on July 05, 2004, 12:01:55 AM
Brunswick doesn't presently have the ability to make two-color particle balls.  That is one of their highest priority projects, but it is very expensive.  Their facility has been in the same place for a very long time.  Some of the machines that they use, have been going for as much as 70 years!!!

When Storm started doing 2 and 3 color particle balls, their facility is much newer, just now around 10 years old.

Brunswick knows their particle balls are not very pretty.  They are working on it.  What do you want them to do?  Stop making Ultimate Infernos?  Please no, we can't get them fast enough already!!!!

After all, how much can one man do???



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Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: TheDude on July 05, 2004, 12:23:43 AM
it's true, when i think of it. all of there particle balls have been solid color.

raging inferno, both of the older monsters, warp zone,
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Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: Hammer3003 on July 05, 2004, 01:00:23 AM
Those hook rating do not mean a thing. They probly did that to attract the hook nuts.
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Title: Re: Goliath
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom-Chris on July 05, 2004, 01:20:44 AM
Not sure about a scale but I can tell you that this ball hooks. I bowled Sean Rash at the Mini. He was us using it and I asked him if it out hooked the Ultimate. He said without a doubt. This kid can hook a marble but for the tight conditions on our pair this ball gave him an advantage. Ball is way more then the Swamp Monster was. Might not be pretty but pretty doesn't knock the pins down.