I bought a Detonator last winter, and I was happy with it at first, but now it moves just too much. My stats are in my profile. I guess you might consider me one of those "inexperienced users" because I am 15 and I've only been bowling for a year, but I research my bowling equipment more then anyone else I know. I got my detonator with a 2E drilling from Brunswick's site, with an extra hole to increase flare. I keep it with the factory finish. This ball is way to much unless it is on flooded lanes. Right now on medium to heavy oil, I'll line up with my right leg against the ball return, throw it as hard as i can over third, come within a half board of the left gutter, and I will still go brooklyn. My speed has slowed up some since I have gotten the ball, so maybe that's why I haven't been able to control it lately. From what I see in your profile, your speed and revs are fairly similar to mine, but I have a lot more tilt (maximum). It's a fairly consistent ball (kind of speed sensitive though), and it does go long for being a particle ball. If I were to make a suggestion for drilling a detonator for you, I'd say get this thing drilled fairly weak (maybe a 3L?), other wise you'll have problems using it on anything besides flooded lanes. As for the Eliminator, I know a kid who throws one. He throws a very small hook though, but when he actually does throw a decent hook and hits the pocket, it carries very well. Hopefully this was at least some help.