the vintage lt-48 is the best ball ive chucked in 2 years, did it 5" pin with 80 val and a small hole 2" down from PAP, 4000 spinner, it reads the midlane early and is ubber smooth and controlled on the backend while covering a bunch of boards, continues forever...super easy shot with known friction the ball will flat kill it ...would have loved to have seen the same core on the rhino for me personally but ill just drill out the addition flare from the increased diff, cant wait for this piece