Like the title says....ready to give up on this ball.  Leaves tons of ten pins.  Tried it on both THS I bowl on (wood and synthetic) also last years dbl/ sng Nats pattern at a local tournament and today on the Highway to Hell pattern. 

Once I get lined up it normally will leave a flat ten, move in and leave a ring ten.  Pretty frustrating.  It's drilled pin above ring finger, cg in the palm.  Added a motion hole which so far hasn't really made any difference.  Finish is still oob. 

The Platinum Ringer I just got is awesome. 

Wed nites league used the Blue game one for 158, switched to the Platinum and went 198-279. 

I'm thinking the Blue must be too dull and burning up on me. Any thoughts on a different finish to try before I pitch it?

Quote from: kidlost2000 on January 30, 2015, 05:18:52 PM

Why not leave the ball with some surface and use for heavier oil instead of trying to fit it into a condition that it may not be suited for? Let the Ringer Platinum be the ball for most of what you see on a regular basis and when the Platinum isn't enough then you have the Blue Ringer to step in.

is Highway To Hell considered heavier oil?  I know it's nice and flat which I liked, not sure if it's heavy oil though.  The Blue acted the same on it, bunch of ten pins.  The Platinum carried much better. 

It just seems to need a bit more length....maybe it will be fine on the synthetics.

The pattern tells me nothing. According to youtube when searched everyone seems to be hooking the ball for days. If you are bowling on it you should be able to tell if it is heavy, medium or light.

Are you leaving flat 10s, ringing 10s,? Do you make adjustment with speed or line? This can be any ball on any condition depending on the bowler and the line. Some guys complain about "leaving 10s" if they leave 1 out of 4 good shots. Most of the time they do not realize they aren't making good shots and assume in the pocket means it should strike.

Lots of variable that only someone actually watching in person can better determine the adjustments to make. A video of 5 or 6 good shots of you leaving 10 pins or just consecutive frames bowling would be helpful.

Quote from: Greazygeo on January 31, 2015, 09:57:59 AM

Quote from: kidlost2000 on January 30, 2015, 05:18:52 PM

Why not leave the ball with some surface and use for heavier oil instead of trying to fit it into a condition that it may not be suited for? Let the Ringer Platinum be the ball for most of what you see on a regular basis and when the Platinum isn't enough then you have the Blue Ringer to step in.

is Highway To Hell considered heavier oil?  I know it's nice and flat which I liked, not sure if it's heavy oil though.  The Blue acted the same on it, bunch of ten pins.  The Platinum carried much better. 

It just seems to need a bit more length....maybe it will be fine on the synthetics.

The pattern tells me nothing. According to youtube when searched everyone seems to be hooking the ball for days. If you are bowling on it you should be able to tell if it is heavy, medium or light.

Are you leaving flat 10s, ringing 10s,? Do you make adjustment with speed or line? This can be any ball on any condition depending on the bowler and the line. Some guys complain about "leaving 10s" if they leave 1 out of 4 good shots. Most of the time they do not realize they aren't making good shots and assume in the pocket means it should strike.

Lots of variable that only someone actually watching in person can better determine the adjustments to make. A video of 5 or 6 good shots of you leaving 10 pins or just consecutive frames bowling would be helpful.

My typical nite is 4-5 ten pins per game.  If using my Red Hammer not as many ten pins, but as many 7's.  With this ringer it has been ten pins.  They can be either flat or ringing.  Make an adjustment and it will be the other.  I typically move side to side on THS.  I've not been able to make speed adjustments. Sport patterns I move forward and backward.

I really appreciate all the info and help from you guys. I hope to make this work somehow. It won't be till tue before I could possibly video anything.