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Title: Holy Pin!
Post by: Bar5003 on November 02, 2007, 05:09:59 AM
http://www.brunswickinsiders.com/PBA%20Tournaments/02Taylor/PhotosTaylor/photosbowlingballs/tennelletwisted.jpg

When did Brunswick start going with the MO sized pins?  Did i miss something?  Seems like some of the others aren't as big, but still big...
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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: WSUstroker on November 02, 2007, 01:12:04 PM
Brit, it seems on and off on which balls get Mo-Pins.  I've seen several balls with them and several without.  This has been going on for a few months at least, but it isn't consistent when they do show up.
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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: Joe Jr on November 02, 2007, 01:13:42 PM
There not doing that on purpose. I've seen a few Inferno remakes and Furys with pins like that. You can actually the normal pin the giant filler or whatever is over the normal pin.
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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: Bar5003 on November 02, 2007, 01:16:11 PM
Hmm interesting...anyone have a real answer on this one?  Is it to cover up a pin that didn't come out quite right in the manufacturing process?

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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: MegaMav on November 02, 2007, 01:22:04 PM
Brit,

I think if the pin cracks during the curing process, the pin is drilled out and filler poured into the hole.
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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: pop_1 on November 02, 2007, 01:33:55 PM
Just curious.  If the pin is big, and we are not supposed to drill within 1" of the pin, does that limit layouts?  My driller has drilled into pins and even drill some of mine out, but I know it is supposed to void the warranty if the ball cracks.
Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: KDawg77 on November 02, 2007, 01:36:05 PM
The ball is sad. It's "Mo-pin" around.
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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: WSUstroker on November 02, 2007, 01:45:04 PM
quote:
The ball is sad. It's "Mo-pin" around.





Wow, that's bad, even for a friday man.

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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: KDawg77 on November 02, 2007, 01:46:19 PM
One of my myriad of useless skills.
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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: azus on November 02, 2007, 01:47:54 PM
I like the bigger pin:s better than the standard sized.
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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: qstick777 on November 02, 2007, 02:20:33 PM
I'm curious about the process as well.

From the old Columbia site:
http://columbia300.net/innovation/techdocs.cfm?id=19

quote:

"The Assembly Process"
A hole is drilled in the core, and the core is placed on a pin at the required height in the mold. The cut-a-way picture shows a core positioned on a pin before pouring. The rest of the mold is then assembled and the shell material is poured.

After the shell material has been poured and allowed to harden, the mold will be broken away from the ball and the pin removed leaving a hole. This hole is then plugged with a different color resin in order to help your pro shop determine where the core is positioned under the shell.


From the Ebonite factory video from the History Channel, it looked to be a similar process.

I had wondered about how "bad pins" were created, and BrunsNick was able to give a little insight, but I don't think either of us were able to find out how exactly a "bad pin" is formed.

I wonder if the pin can sometimes be inserted into the core at an incorrect angle, or maybe it shifts during the molding process?

I always thought that the pin was the actual part that was inserted into the core and that the rest of the ball was molded around it. Then I figured the pin was cut down and eventually smoothed out during the final cutting/sanding process. Pins always seemed more "plastic" to me than the rest of the coverstock.


If it is actually drilled out and replugged, maybe they are just using a larger bit (for what ever reason).

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Title: Re: Holy Pin!
Post by: NateNice on November 02, 2007, 04:06:33 PM
Brunswick makes every nth ball with a large pin like that.  It's part of their manufacturing process.  Those balls are used as a quality control metric or something.  There's nothing at all different about the ball.

I remember reading something to this effect from one of the Brunswick people around here.