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tournament of champions
« on: December 12, 2003, 07:33:00 AM »
brunswick was well represented today at the 2003 pba tournament of champions sponsored by dexter.

brunswick pro staffer and pba hall of famer parker bohn III defeated robert smith 3-0 and advances to the round of 16 against brian himmler.

brunswick pro staffer chris barnes defeated brian voss 3-0 and advances to the round of 16 against walter ray williams, jr.

brunswick pro staffer and pba hall of famer dave soutar had a tough day and lost to pete weber 3-0.

independent dave d'entremont lost to richie allen 3-1 and was eliminated.

great showing guys and good luck tomorrow parker and chris !

 

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2003, 11:52:41 PM »
chris barnes has made it to the televised finals of the 2003 dexter tournament of champions. he will face patrick healey, jr., in the semi-finals. good luck chris !

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2003, 09:56:50 AM »
1 Brunswick staffer against 3 Storm staffers.

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2003, 01:53:02 PM »
Chris wasn't on today.  He tried a little bit of everything, but never had a good reaction and didn't look comfortable.  Better luck next time.  Looks like he tried one or two Inferno's, an Eliminator, and a Bruiser.
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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2003, 08:33:20 PM »
Although it's almost useless to comment on a lane condition that you were just watching, and not competing on, I was a bit baffled with C. Barnes's ball choices today. The Inferno is a very low RG ball and tends to move early when the head oil is medium, light, or disappearing. I was shocked to see the Eliminator come out of the bag too. Watching Healey get a great read with the polished Hot Rod, I would have thought that Chris would have selected something with a higher RG to get down the lane a bit - Blazing Inferno, Monster Red/Black, polished Detonator, just about anything else with a medium-high to high RG. Anyone who throws an Inferno who watched today could just about predict the flat 10 and the weak blower 7. The Inferno is awesome on the right condition, but like any ball, the carry suffers when you don't match up well. Are paid Staffers limited to throwing only current production equipment on TV, or are they free to throw any past or present balls from their Company?
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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2003, 09:16:37 PM »
chris used his inferno to shoot 300 saturday against ricky ward. he was using a Swamp Monster however the rest of his matches the brackets. he was either using that or the inferno throughout the weekend..

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2003, 10:16:13 PM »
I thought Healy was using a Flash Point, but I could be mistaken

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2003, 10:31:47 PM »
Well - both of those balls make sense on a long fresh oil pattern, depending on volume.  I'm not 100% sure on the arena format and how often they strip/oil, but you have to believe that when you start a match during the brackets that it's on a fresh shot. However, when the show rolls around, they get what - an hour to warm up? 4 guys throwing for around an hour - then throw in the lights too - it would be very surprising to be able to throw the same equipment/layout given the differences in lane play and environment. I just gotta believe that you're gonna watch where your opponents are playing and if someone else is whacking 'em with a shiny high-RG ball, and your low RG stuff both reactive and particle ain't gettin' the job done, you might want to consider something else real quick. Now of course, we didn't get to watch the practice session, so it's very possible that the Inferno was whacking 'em during practice, but the shot just went away during match # 1. That Fear Factor was probably doing major damage to the shot.

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2003, 05:49:14 AM »
RandyO,

I like your analysis of Barnes (because I agree, of course).
I was happy to see him take out that Brusier (I think it was a Brusier) but then I was shocked to see him try to go up the outside. I thought he was about 10-15 boards too far right with his feet. I bet that ball would have been fine playing somewhere near Pat Healey was playing.

People don't seem to realize how good Barnes is. He picked up 4 completely different balls in the one single game he had and made terrific deliveries with each one. He picked the wrong line, YES, several times, but since Pederson was using one of the Strongest balls made, and Healey & Himmler were using some of the mildest, I think it was easy to get confused.

I'd have to guess that the TV Show either deteriorated much quicker than match play did because of the lights and the waiting, or the oil amount was even lighter than that used during match play. I mean, having to launce a mild ball over the gutter caps, when there's only 5-8 games on the lanes is downright stupid, in my opinion.

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2003, 04:26:55 PM »
Maybe it's time to change? Perhaps an hour warmup on the adjacent pair(s), then 15 minutes on the TV pair? How about in addition some cooler lighting with the appropriate camera filters to adjust for the color shift?

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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2003, 04:41:37 PM »
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I was surprised at the ball choices too, Chris' and Randy's.  Both lines have tons of lesser powered, go longer balls.


As far as Randy goes, it was downright baffling.  Sure, we weren't bowling on the condition and don't know exactly how the equipment is laid out, but it was obvious that everyone was struggling to keep the ball off the nose (or in some cases, to the right of the headpin).  Randy kept throwing the Fear Factor - arguably Storm's biggest hook monster.

True, in big-money situation, many times its better to stick with the same ball (he did have success with it in the first round) and adjust than to guess at an equipment change and risk losing 20-30 pins before getting zoomed in again.  These guys are pros.  They get paid for making those adjustments with equipment.  Hats off to Barnes.  He did a great job of showing that expertise, despite the loss.

In no way was Randy "wrong", but I'd love to hear his rationale behind the choice he made.
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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2003, 04:58:47 PM »
Who cares how the lanes break down these guys are pros and should beable to adjust to it.Sometimes its a crap shoot on how or what to attack with,but when you see someone line up with a good reaction and carry dont hesitate to jump on thier shot.If you can execute more consistantly than they can you will have the advantage.I sometimes try to stay away from traffic on the lanes exspecialy on synthetics but some times you have no choice but to joinem,at least when they breakdown it makes who ever is in the same area adjust with you.I think chris should of watch the guys during practice to see what they were doing and have a few shots to see how there line would work for him incase his go's away.But he's a world class bowler and knows what he is doing.
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Re: tournament of champions
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2003, 08:00:23 PM »
anyone notice how they seemed to shooting at there spares a little slower than normal? or was that just me?

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