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SJG

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Out of Box Finishes?
« on: September 26, 2005, 01:24:34 PM »
Anyone know what grit the Blazing Inferno, Monster SlayR and Smokin Inferno are OOB?  On the product information sheet for the Blazing and Monster SlayR, it states that they are "High Gloss Finish" but never specifies the grit.  It tells you how increase hook by sanding down to 800-1000 first or even more to 320-400, so it's got to be higher than 1000 but what exactly?  On the Smokin it says that to return it to original factory finish, sand to 400 grit and polish with Brunswicks high gloss polish, so I'll assume that OOB it is 400 polished, Correct?  Also, to change the surface, how much wet sanding is required/recommended?  Can this be done by hand or only on a spinner?
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Steve

 

charlest

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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2005, 09:35:47 PM »
Most recent pearls used the forumla you found: 400 grit sanding followed by Brunswick's high gloss polish.

All such sanding AND polishing mustbe done on a spinner to achieve the results desired.
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SJG

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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2005, 11:51:46 PM »
The Blazing and the SlayR must be higher than 400 OOB though, because they recommend sanding down to 800-1000 and 320-400 to get more hook and a smoother reaction.  What is their OOB?  1500?  Higher?  Inquiring minds want to know.

BTW, what brand spinner do you recommend?  Does the HP difference matter?  I saw 1/3, 1/2 and 3/4 hp units.

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Steve

charlest

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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2005, 06:46:03 AM »
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If you were to sand to a anything below  400 such as 600, 800, 1000, 1500, 2000, and on and then put the high gloss polish back on you would decrease hook and increase skid snap


Actually you'd increase length and decerease backend, IF you used Brunswick's High Gloss Polish (which has no grit in it to change that undercoat), because the underlying grit base coat is finer. As you use finer and finer grtis, the differences are not great. YOu'd have to fo from 400 grit to about 1200 or 1500 before you'd see a noticeable and desireable difference.
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SJG

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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2005, 02:51:28 PM »
I understand the how reaction changes with the grit changes, I just want to know the OOB grits for the Blazing and SlayR to use as a general comparison to any new balls I may purchase, to keep from overlapping what I already have.  Anybody know what these OOB grits are?

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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2005, 03:54:15 PM »
Charlest already said it.  The high gloss polish is a gritless polish.  It doesn't automatically change it to 1500 or 2000 or anything.  So there really is no answer.
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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2005, 05:10:31 PM »
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Charlest already said it.  The high gloss polish is a gritless polish.  It doesn't automatically change it to 1500 or 2000 or anything.  So there really is no answer.
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Well, there really is, Andy. It's 400 grit, but SJG doesn't seem to want to accept that answer.In that case, maybe you should direct your question to Brunswick themselves.
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SJG

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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2005, 05:57:44 PM »
Charlest, I think what is confusing to me is the Brunswick High Gloss polish and the instructions on the drill sheet.  I thought the sheet implied that after sanding one of the high gloss finish balls to 400 or 800 grit that it should be repolished again but I guess not.  The polish would negate the effect of sanding it to a lower grit?  
If the Blazing is 400 grit and polished OOB what would the reaction be sanded to 1000 grit and left unpolished?  Which of these setups would be longer with more backend (skid/snap), versus more hook/smoother reaction?  If you then polished the 1000 grit ball would it react exactly the same as the 400 grit polihsed one?  I'm just trying to understand the effect the grit and the high gloss polish has on the ball.  I thought the grit had more effect but I guess the polish pretty much defeats the purpose of changing the surface?

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Re: Out of Box Finishes?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2005, 06:04:21 PM »
400 grit with  polish--OOB
1000 grit unpolish--smoother off the end of the pattern and more overall hook
1000 grit with polish--more push than OOB because the underlying surface is less aggressive, more skid/snap usually depends on the pattern

220-1000 unpolished in best to smooth out the reaction and add hook potential
polish over the sanded ball generally creates length.

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