Post by: Walking E on May 15, 2004, 09:30:40 AM
If I polish the Ultimate Inferno, will it give me the same reaction as the Inferno?
If it does, it would seem that the UI would be the better choice due to the versatility of being able to be thrown dull or polished. The Inferno doesn't look like a ball that "dulls up" very well.
I roll on a carry-down condition, wood lanes, freshly oiled heads and my other polished reactives go very straight (Sage Quantum, black V2 polished); however, the Inferno line appears to be pretty strong for a reactive and I think with either choice I'll get the stronger reaction I'm desiring than with either of the two balls I mentioned.
Does anybody have any insight or opinions about this?
Thanks, in advance!
Post by: a_ak57 on May 16, 2004, 12:36:02 AM
Hope that helps.
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-Andy
Post by: charlest on May 16, 2004, 07:16:43 AM
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I roll on a carry-down condition, wood lanes, freshly oiled heads and my other polished reactives go very straight (Sage Quantum, black V2 polished); however, the Inferno line appears to be pretty strong for a reactive and I think with either choice I'll get the stronger reaction I'm desiring than with either of the two balls I mentioned.
Does anybody have any insight or opinions about this?
When you say the black V2 polished goes very straight, what makes you think the UI will not also go straight when it is polished? The V2 black (Once officially called the "V2 Sanded".) is not exactly a weak ball even when polished. In fact, its RG and RG differential are in the same range as the UI; Both are fairly strong solid resin coverstocks. Just because the V2 is an older ball does not mean it is weaker than the UI. (If it has absorbed oil and is highly "used", it may be weaker.) Both balls are intended for medium to medium-heavy oil, with some carrydown in their out-of-box surface, which is about 800-1000 grit.
Since the V2's cover is easily modified, both up and down, I'd strongly suggest modifying its cover to see how the UI might react to the same. (If you want to keep it polished, it can always be re-polished.) First I'd try using a green nylon pad on it, by hand, to roughen up the cover; then see how it reacts. If that's not enough, sand it totally to 1200 or 1000 grit level with wet/dry sandpaper and then see how it reacts. If that's too early, try 600 grit sanding and very light polish.
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"We get old too fast, and too late, smart."
Post by: UCFKnight300 on May 16, 2004, 06:08:07 PM
Post by: Walking E on May 20, 2004, 01:06:08 AM
The Ultimate should be a much stronger ball for me, especially if I leave it in the box condition (which everyone indicates is very strong).
Now if I can just find a house for the summer that has a THS so that I can unleash ALL of my equipment and score!
Edited on 5/20/2004 1:04 AM
Post by: a_ak57 on May 25, 2004, 03:21:14 PM
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-Andy
Post by: UCFKnight300 on May 25, 2004, 04:31:08 PM
Post by: JVan19 on May 25, 2004, 04:43:13 PM
Post by: Walking E on May 25, 2004, 05:31:32 PM
So far I only have a few practice games on the ball on a THS. Wow -- this ball really hooks violently on the back end! I don't know the technical data, but the pin is at the top of my ring finger, and the "CG" (I think that's what it is -- it's just a little dot) is between my ring finger and thumb. I left it in the box condition. I throw fairly hard, medium revs, track low, and I muscle the ball (i.e. I pitch the ball down the lane with turn, so I don't generally let the ball do all the work).
I wanted a layout and ball that would give me a strong backend reaction, and this ball fits the bill. For comparison's sake, it's stronger and much more angular than my Flipside Wow, and hooks about 5 boards more on a fresh backend. Some of the strikes I got were just filthy ridiculous for me and my game! It's quite unusual for me to cross 20 out to 5 and watch the ball zoom back towards the head pin in the last 10 feet. Admittedly, I slowed the ball speed down a little to do this, but that made my speed more of an "average" ball speed anyway. In the three games, I had a 7-bagger and a 5-bagger, which wasn't bad considering that I was really tired and also had to adjust to a new finger pitch. I also had some big splits, as I would tug the ball (or throw it soft due to weariness) and it would dive right through the head pin. I also left a few solid 10 pins, but all of those could've been better shots anyway (for my point of view regarding solid 10-pins for righties and 7-pins for lefties, see my signature ;-)).
I have yet to try this ball on my usual house shot, which is fresh oiled heads with carrydown and a buffed midlane. I know that on that condition, this ball won't finish like it does on a typical house shot with fresh backends, but I am optimistic that it will still give me some finish (especially with keeping the original surface).
The strong backend reaction might end up being a little too strong for me, but I'm happy with it for now.
I'll let you know more once I've tried it out on different conditions. Thanks again for all your input.
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You weren't unlucky when you left that corner pin, so shut up about it already!!
Post by: Lane Bed on May 27, 2004, 02:17:16 AM
Post by: Walking E on May 27, 2004, 11:32:29 AM
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If you want stored engery and big backends then you want a pearlized ball which would be the Inferno. The UI will hook early. I have had good luck with mine using a skid/snap drilling. If you want even better skid/snap check out the Track Animal Untamed
I throw above average speed, track low and I muscle the ball, so my experience with pearl coverstocks is that they're too squirty for me. Most of the time on my typical conditions, they go straight for 60 feet. If I bowled on drier lanes a pearl would be ideal.
Yeah, if I could afford it I'd try both the original Inferno and the Animal Untamed, but alas that is not to be. Hmmmm, maybe I'll sell one of my kidneys or something ...
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You weren't unlucky when you left that corner pin, so shut up about it already!!
Post by: laufaye on May 27, 2004, 02:23:33 PM
Hmmmm, maybe I'll sell one of my kidneys or something ...
LOL, you should try wanted/selling section. LOLOL
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Laufaye