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chitown

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infernos?
« on: July 08, 2006, 02:40:17 PM »
If one were to drill up a Scorching, Absolute, Smoking and Radical inferno with the same layout would there be enough separation to make a logical arsenal?

Is the Smoking and Radical just too close to be used in the same arsenal?

This is a serious question.  I don't know anything about the infernos except for the absolute that I seen in action.  The absolute looked like a great all around ball.

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Joe Jr

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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2006, 10:52:18 PM »
There would be a lot of overlap between the Absolute/Smokin/Radical(assuming the Radical reacts like the specs say) You could have 2 but not all 3.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2006, 11:02:05 PM »
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There would be a lot of overlap between the Absolute/Smokin/Radical(assuming the Radical reacts like the specs say) You could have 2 but not all 3.
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OK which combo has better separation; the smoking and absolute or the radical and absolute?  Asumming the balls were drilled with the same exact layout.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2006, 11:23:25 PM »
Well it's hard to say considering the Radical isn't released yet. But the Absolute and Smokin were a combo for me. The Absolute was longer and more angular while the Smokin' was a tad eariler and smoother.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2006, 11:29:23 PM »
Like Joe said, it'd be difficult to say because the Radical hasn't come out yet.  I really wouldn't go strictly by Brunswick's numbers because I remember that they touted the Smokin to be stronger than it is (they billed it as having the same oil capabilities as the Absolute but longer and more angular, and the oil handling part is not true for most people).  From what I can say without conjecture the Smokin and Absolute would be the better two to have.  But who knows, the Abby and Radical could turn out to be a tremendous one-two punch.  Time can only tell.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2006, 12:08:28 AM »
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The Absolute was longer and more angular while the Smokin' was a tad eariler and smoother.


Interesting.  I would have thought exactly the opposite.  What was the layout on these two balls, BL?
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2006, 12:16:57 AM »
For the conditions I bowl on,the Absolute was earlier and more even.The Smokin was long and flippy.Also,the absolute could handle quite a bit more oil.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2006, 12:23:38 AM »
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The Absolute was longer and more angular while the Smokin' was a tad eariler and smoother.


Interesting.  I would have thought exactly the opposite.  What was the layout on these two balls, BL?
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Absolute is under bridge/middle and the Smokin is under middle. My Smokin' reminds me of my original Inferno I had with the same drilling. The Smokin was a beast though, one of the stronger pearls i've ever owned.
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2006, 01:02:56 PM »
Well, oob it seems as though the Radical and Absolute will cover a similar # of boards with the Radical being longer and more angular in doing so.  This was what they said about the Smokin' when it came out, but in my experience unless on dry to where the AI would burn out a bit, the Smokin was 3-5 boards less.  I would say that if you like a bit more angle go with Scorchin, Radical and Smokin.  If you like more of an even arcing ball reaction go with the Ultimate, Absolute, and perhaps a smokin drilled with more of an even arcing drill or perhaps the Ambush.
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2006, 02:34:48 PM »
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not drilled with the same drillings but im sure if you put a length driling on the Smokin (Pin Above Bridge, 5 1/2 by 4 maybe?)
a simple drill on the Absolute (Pin To the Right of Ring)
a strong drill on the Radical (4 x 4?)
and a strong drill on the Scorchin (4 X 4 as well)

you would pretty much cover any condition you came across
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that sounds like a good set up with the drilling layouts.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2006, 06:03:43 PM »
You might want to go with the same pin to pap on the SI as AAckley1 said, but instead of going above the bridge, instead go below.  The smokin is long by nature and putting the pin above may give you some over under.  You also might think about going with the same drill on the AI.  The AI even with the grit taken up a bit (perhaps 500 & rb as opposed to the factory 220 & rb) should be earlier and stronger than the Smokin'.  The Radical and Scorchin can either be drilled as he says and surface changed on the radical or you could go mild with the Scorchin.  Although I haven't had a chance to throw the Radical (not out for about a month) I'm almost positive considering the strength of the Scorchin and the fact that the Radical is a polished pearl that they will not compliment each other oob with the same drill.
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chitown

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Re: infernos?
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2006, 08:24:53 AM »
Thanks for all of the info guys I appreciate it.
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BallsDeep

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2006, 12:25:00 PM »
Your welcome, but really why the questions.  I loved your all doom arsenal and the way you adamantly defended the ball.  It was really great to see your posts "doom still holding up after 100 games" or stuff like that.  I'm not trying to be a smart ace I just really liked the arsenal and also thought that it would work ok.  Why the switch.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2006, 10:58:39 AM »
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Your welcome, but really why the questions.  I loved your all doom arsenal and the way you adamantly defended the ball.  It was really great to see your posts "doom still holding up after 100 games" or stuff like that.  I'm not trying to be a smart ace I just really liked the arsenal and also thought that it would work ok.  Why the switch.
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My All Doom arsenal works great.  The Dooms are holding up fine.  The cover is very durable on this ball.

I'm asking questions because I plan on building another arsenal of different balls.  Not out of need but out of want.  I admitt i'm a ball whore.  

I really like symmetrical balls.  The inferons look intersting so I was aking about the balls speperation between them.

I want to build a 5 ball arsenal and am just looking thru all the ball company's to see which balls I plan on getting.  Like I said this is not out of need but want.

I had planned on using my all Doom arsenal the first half of the league season and use my other arsenal that I plan on building for the second half to see which arsenal I do better with.

I'm very lucky in that I bowl on a league that changes the lane patterns often.  Usually every 4 weeks.  Sometimes it's every week.  They keep you guessing.  Plus every pattern they put out is difficult.  No blocked patterns here.  No great wall.  If you bowl a 200 you earned it.  

Well with a league like this each ball in my arsenal will get used.  Which I like.  There wont be any boat anchors in my bag.  If I bowled on a normal house shot league I would only have a 2 ball arsenal but that's not the case for where I bowl.
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2006, 10:31:01 PM »
Interesting.  If I may ask, why do you like symmetrical stuff so much.  I guess I'm kind of like you, but with asyms in stead of symms.  As far as really good symmetrical stuff, I have heard nothing but good things about the fired up line from storm, though some of their other lines have been given some flack, or the Legends/Lane Masters stuff, all Symmetrical.  Give charlest a pm for some info on that stuff.  Although they don't have a great deal of true symmetrical stuff, Ebonite's latest stuff is hearalded.  The Big Times if I'm not mistaken are very weak asyms, and the No Limit, and SR300 are symmetrical.  The infernos are a great choice though really good reactions and one of the few high end lines still around that are symmetrical.
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