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legend4life95

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Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« on: December 12, 2006, 12:13:27 PM »
I drilled my Total tonight and threw it a few games before drilling the weight hole. It had 1.5 oz. of positive side weight and 1/4 oz. thumb prior to x-hole.

 It was ok but very long and mild off the dry. I went back in and let the driller put a x-hole to bring the side back to 1/2 oz. positive. Took it back out and it killed it. It now goes longer than my Smokin White Pin with even less backend! I couldn't believe it. I then scuffed it with a green pad by hand and it started checking up a tad bit earlier but still had nothing on the backend.

It is drilled with the pin 4-1/4" from my PAP with it below the bridge. CG is kicked right about 1-1/2". I came home and changed the surface on the spinner. I took it down to 360 abralon and then hit it with a nice coat of Brunswick Factory Finish Polish. I will try it again tomorrow at league and see if that will give it a little more reaction.

If not, I am planning to plug the x-hole and redrill it in a different location. Any suggestions where?

I will post a picture soon.



Edit: Pics added I circled the cg in the pics to be seen easier and also marked my PAP.

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4238816

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4238815

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4238814


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legend4life95

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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2006, 10:18:08 AM »
Ok, I decided to locate my PAP again since my track is totally different on this ball. My track on the Total is now inverted. I traced my track and put it back on the spinner to locate the new PAP.

My PAP for this ball is now 4-1/2" over and 1-1/4" down. This changes the layout by 1" pin to pap distance. It is now 5-1/4" pin to pap instead of the original 4-1/4" pin to pap.

I think BrunsNick hit the nail on the head. Since my track is now inverted on this ball, having the x-hole where it is puts it 2" above my pap and a half inch past my pap. I think this is the reason it killed the flare. I still don't understand why my track/PAP changed on this ball vs. any of my other equipment. I got my Scorchin drilled last night as well, and threw it on the same lanes. My track and PAP was was the normal 4" over on that ball.



So ok, I now plan to plug the x-hole and redrill it. My question is would I be best to put the hole 2-1/4" down on my new val, or could I use a combination of 2-1/4 down and 2-1/4 out past the PAP? I just want to get some flare back and get some movement on medium oil.


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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2006, 10:41:07 AM »
Ok, here are some new pics showing where my new PAP is located in reference to my old PAP. It also show the track traced.
I also marked where the new x-hole would go being 2-1/4" down on val. Maybe you experts can tell me if this looks like it would correct the problem. Also will this new hole keep it legal since the statics will be 1.5 oz positive side and 1/4 oz thumb weight after I plug the old hole and prior to drilling the new one.

Here are several pics.

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4244043

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4244047

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4244046

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4244045

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=4244044


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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2006, 12:20:27 PM »
That Total Inferno looks just like an Absolute Inferno. My Total is drilled EXACTLY the same and it outhooks everything in my bag except for my Special Agent.
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legend4life95

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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2006, 02:07:56 PM »
I'm taking it back to the lanes tonight and probally end up pluging the x-hole. Can one of the Brunswick experts comment on my last post before I redrill the x-hole and make sure that its the right choice?


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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2006, 02:52:55 PM »
Sounds like a plan to me!
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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2006, 03:01:50 PM »
I thought Brunswick proved that xholes are meaningless?

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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2006, 03:03:50 PM »
Dj, take a look at the video Nick posted on his website, which shows quite the opposite.
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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2006, 03:04:36 PM »
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I thought Brunswick proved that xholes are meaningless?


Hardly.  They've shown that they aren't responsible for the kinds of reactions that the USBC was saying caused such an increase in scores.  That static weight rules weren't the problem.  Looking at Nick's X-hole demo vid pretty conclusively shows that they will alter a ball's reaction.

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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2006, 03:29:09 PM »
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I thought Brunswick proved that xholes are meaningless?

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CG's yes, X-holes no.

The only way the CG matters is to localize weight for a specific x-hole location.
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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2006, 03:32:54 PM »
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Sounds like a plan to me!
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Thanks Nick. I'm out the door now to league and will have it plugged and hopefully re-popped by tomorrow for league.


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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2006, 08:27:20 PM »
I agree with the poster that said that ball doesnt look like a TI. My TI looks nothing like that.  That ball looks Pearlized, the TI isnt a pearl....could this be the worst blem in the history of bowling?

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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2006, 10:47:00 PM »
Legend,

Throw the ball after you plug the hole and measure your PAP again before you drill the new hole. Putting the weight back in might shift the PAP slightly.
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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2006, 11:00:26 PM »
I'd say change the surface before plugging it.
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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2006, 06:15:12 AM »
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I'd say change the surface before plugging it.
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I tried it OOB and then tried it scuffed with a 600 grit pad by hand. Then I came home and put it on the spinner and put it at 360 abralon + BFF High Gloss. Threw it last night and it was still about the same. Its not the surface. I know that for a fact as much as I play with surface preps with all my equipment. I can tell the difference in the flare rings before the x-hole and after. Its being plugged now and I will go to the proshop tonight to re-punch the x-hole 2-1/4" down from my PAP on the VAL.

I will keep everyone updated on my results.

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legend4life95

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Re: Is the Total Inferno suppose to be this weak?
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2006, 06:17:08 AM »
quote:
I agree with the poster that said that ball doesnt look like a TI. My TI looks nothing like that.  That ball looks Pearlized, the TI isnt a pearl....could this be the worst blem in the history of bowling?

Shawn



I am curious what other peoples look like now. Could somebody post pics of their Total so I can see the difference?


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