Post by: Zanatos1914 on April 17, 2012, 09:19:53 PM
I feel bad about asking this question but I have a cuda c pearl and just received this Karma as a gift... Are both balls simliar or is the Karma Sold allot stronger....
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Post by: charlest on April 18, 2012, 12:41:30 AM
Over the years, Columbia's Super-Flex always went head to head with Brunswick's Power Koil 18 coverstock. They were comparable, with PK 18 slightly more even and strong than Super-Flex overall, but not by much. Some Super-Flex solids were stronger than some PK 18 solids and some PK 18 pearls were stronger (read:earlier) than some Super-Flex pearls.
So a Super-Cuda/C solid today could go head to head with a Karma solid and 50% of the bowlers would say the Karma was stronger and 50% woudl say teh Super-Cuda/C was stronger.
However the Cuda/C used Flexcel, not Super-Flex and Flexcel was a notch weaker overall than Super-Flex. While these balls are weaker than average, than most balls intended for true medium oil these days, the difference between these balls grows smaller every day.
So, I believe the Cuda would be a hair or more weaker than a Karma with the same drilling and the same surface, but it isn't the huge difference it used to be. And on some lighter oils, either one might be perfect.
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Post by: Zanatos1914 on April 18, 2012, 01:37:45 PM
Thanks for the information...
I have a better understanding of how I should get the ball drilled now...
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Post by: avabob on April 19, 2012, 04:32:05 PM
Biggest difference was that super flex had a much shorter life span than PK 18. Any columbia ball of that vintage is going to act like a urethane against a new PK 18 shell, even if close when new.
Post by: tommyboy74 on April 19, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
My Arsenal (as of February 2012)
Heavy Oil: Roto Grip Defiant: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy: 4000 AB
Heavy Oil: Roto Grip Defiant: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Track 919C: 3000 AB
Medium-Heavy Oil: Ebonite Vital Energy: 4000 AB
Medium Oil: Track 505T: 4000 AB
Medium-Light Oil: Hammer Brick: 2000 polished
Post by: dougb on April 19, 2012, 10:56:19 PM
Post by: Zanatos1914 on April 23, 2012, 01:53:23 PM
Karma is weaker than the Cuda C.....
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Post by: charlest on April 23, 2012, 06:47:36 PM
I find that very unusual, but interesting. Were the drillings and the surfaces similar or at least close?
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