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jbkoala

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Karma Urethane surface
« on: March 30, 2013, 01:44:51 AM »
To those of you who are using the karma urethane, may I know what surface do you guys use it on? I find the OOB quite strong.

I am rev dominant, currently on OOB, using it on an extremely light THS with bone dry heads. First game is always good as I can hit the pocket easily. But when the mids go, I struggle to find a line to the pocket because the ball starts hooking too early midlane. I tried moving deeper, but it would either burn too early, or even if it does make it downlane it would lack energy to turn back to the pocket.

Should I bring the surface to 2000 or 4000?

 

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Re: Karma Urethane surface
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 02:22:03 AM »
Change the surface to something finer and keep in mind moves with urethane aren't the same as moves with reactive urethane.  Urethane tends to have more friction in oil than reactive and less friction on the dry.

Urethane, even when polished, doesn't exhibit the recovery when missing outside your intended target line.  Successful moves are generally parallel and not the standard 3 and 1, etc...

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Re: Karma Urethane surface
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2013, 10:17:14 AM »
Taking the surface up to 4000 should help this. You will have to move right on the fresh but wont have to move as much later.
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Re: Karma Urethane surface
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2013, 01:51:51 AM »
Took it up to 4000 and there was considerably more length but breakpoint shape stayed the same. Should be good on a normal THS.
Unfortunately at the same time, my center changed the pattern to a ridiculous 30ft THS and I was throwing from gutter to gutter.

Lets say if I polish it further with secret sauce, what changes can I expect?

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Re: Karma Urethane surface
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2013, 10:59:50 AM »
Took it up to 4000 and there was considerably more length but breakpoint shape stayed the same. Should be good on a normal THS.
Unfortunately at the same time, my center changed the pattern to a ridiculous 30ft THS and I was throwing from gutter to gutter.

Lets say if I polish it further with secret sauce, what changes can I expect?

More length, less overall hook.

Urethanes react very differently from resin balls, which when you polish them, you usually get more of the hook transferred to the backend.
 
The only time you'll get more backend from a urethane is if you slow down your ball speed or you encounter the kind of oil pattern that gives it to you (long-ish, light oil and very clean backends). Short oil tends to make a urethane roll out and/or hit weakly because they tend to grab the lane much earlier than resins. Too much dry is the enemy of most urethane.
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Re: Karma Urethane surface
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 01:59:04 PM »
Defnitely agree with taking the surface to 4000.  If you are hooking it coast to coast on a low volume house shot, the urethane might not be the best option no matter what surface you use.  A pearl resin ball with a tame core might give you a better look.  Urethane hits much harder if you can keep a straigher trajectory.  Many people don't understand this, and it is the biggeset reason good straighter players are reluctant to make more use of it.