Author Topic: Karma and the Cheetah Pattern (Read 2820 times)

JagBrew · « **on:** April 19, 2011, 09:12:21 AM »

Guys,

I made the switch to all Brunswick awhile back to make it easier to know what ball fills a gap. I am going to a regional in a couple of weeks that is the Cheetah. I've honestly never bowled on this one. Need some advice. I have heard that the Karma solid might be the ball to take, along with a Urethene. I've watched some old videos of the Danger Zone, and it looked like it was a good ball for the outside line, that didn't snap, and I hear the Karma is in that same mold. I have a Damage that is Pin up, high, between the fingers. I had been coming out of the side of the ball, but have since changed to a behind the ball release now, so not sure what the Pap is.

I have given a Midnight Vibe that I had that was controllable to my dad once I picked up the Damange, not sure if the Damage is what I need for the pattern, as it goes long, but does snap pretty good at the end.

So anybody know if the Karma Solid would truly be a big difference from the Damage? The controllable younger brother? Or should I just pick up another Vibe. (always knew where it was going).

Edited by JagBrew on 4/19/2011 at 5:13 PM

BrunsWolf · « **Reply #1 on:** April 19, 2011, 07:15:36 PM »

JagBrew, I really like the idea of a Karma Solid on the Cheetah pattern. I haven't been able to test this theory for myself, but i would conceptually imagine it to work quite well. With exact release specs, we could further dive into possibilities, but I'll just cover the generics of the situation.

Are you wanting to drill a Karma Solid primarily for the regional?

If so, I think if you lay the ball out with a larger VAL angle (pin further down, possibly right under the bridge) then the ball will give a more continuous roll that is ideal for the Cheetah pattern. I also wouldn't be surprised if you took the surface to 4000 abralon that the ball would be golden. If your speed and rev rate are matched, or if you are rev dominant, then the urethane will be the staple of your bag for this pattern. Compared to the Damage, the Karma Solid will be a board or two weaker overall with slightly more midlane roll. Going with a more pin down drilling will further separate the varience in midlane roll.

If you'd like more specialized help, please post your release specs.

However, I'd see you being able to play with urethane out of the gate, switch to the Karma Solid when you have to move slightly in, and then the Damage in the last few games when you can wheel it to the gutter after the hook spot is really defined.

Brunswick Advisory Staff

Jared Wolf
Jonesboro, AR
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The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation.

Edited by BrunsWolf on 4/20/2011 at 2:57 PM

baer300 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2011, 01:12:43 PM »

The Karma and the Damage will be similar. Like Brunswolf stated with the high pin on the damage, a pin down on the Karma would allow the 2 to comliment each other on that pattern. The Damge will be much more skid/flippier then the Karma. The Karma will read the lane more front to back than the Damage.

More specifics of you and your game would allow us to give better advise.

Adam Baer
Brunswick Regional Staff
Vise Regional Staff
The opinions expressed are solely those of the writer and not of Brunswick Corporation

JagBrew · « **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2011, 08:05:20 PM »

I've been told an Anaconda might be a good fit as it is an Arcing ball. I just discovered tonight that I'm a 20 degree tilt, 5 inch PAP, 1 5/8 up. Not sure if that is helpful. I have both the Damage and Alpha max laid out dual angle 65 x ? x 25.. not sure on the middle number. Now I'm a 1:1 on the Mo Scale, since changing my hand positon go to more of behind the ball.

Typical 39 foot house shot tonight, Alpha Max was crossing 15 out to 8 for a 246, 237 first games. Changed to the Damage last game, playing same line, left all 10's and a stone 4-9.

So what do you guys think about going with the Anaconda instead of the Karma? I'm going to take a Pin Down Natural Urethene, as I havent picked up the Avalanche U yet.

Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2011, 06:07:13 AM »

I have an Anaconda and I'm not too sure about it on Cheetah, there MAY be too much friction and the oil may be too short in the middle making this ball want to stand up way too early...especially on a high friction surface That is FOR ME. It may work for you.

I think the Slingshot would be something to look into for Cheetah, as well as the MoJave (it has Powerkoil 17 I believe and has a bit of a bigger core than the slingshot) and you could probably pick the MoJave up cheap somewhere. Anaconda may be more of a Viper ball for me....

With the correct surface prep (maybe some Valentino UFO) and layout you may have a chance with Anaconda, but the ball does has some strength.

GetOffMe10Pin

-"If you want to make enemies, try to change something." - Woodrow Wilson

DON DRAPER · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2011, 05:19:05 PM »

If you are going to bowl the Cheetah pattern at a PBA regional tournament be prepared accordingly. The lane surface itself and the volume of oil will make the biggest difference in what you do. Make sure you have an arsenal with balls that are dull, smoothsanded, and polished.

Author Topic: Karma and the Cheetah Pattern (Read 2820 times)

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