I have a mystic pin up with a little surface and love mine. When i need something to pick up sooner and be slightly more aggressive, i pull out my Blue Ringer. I always know that if my Mystic isn't finishing well and splitting the 8-9, i can go to my Blue Ringer pin down with a little polish and play the same line and carry the house. Those two compliment each other very well for me, albeit on a THS but they are my favorite two balls right now!