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ucocacola101

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Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« on: December 19, 2013, 06:59:01 PM »
I am looking into getting another ball. I have a high ball speed and i want something for heavy/long oil patterns. I am in a toss up between Brunswick Mastermind and Roto Grip Hyper Cell.

Any suggestions? How do the two differ?

 

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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2013, 12:45:46 AM »
Who is worried about 20 bucks!? I mean really..

to a 'read in between the lines' consumer and a retail manager...the lowest price on the market for a he ball shows inferiority.   

It's true, I'm just saying. The better product is never a "deal."  I know the sync didn't sell the way it was supposed to, and now that "rebates" are back, storm has a 20 dollar rebate now too.





The Sync didn't sell well for two reasons.  It was too strong of a cover/core combo and you could only use it for 4-5 frames. Plus, the Marvel S was a strong ball that most people could use for a sustained amount of time.
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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2013, 01:00:11 AM »
Who is worried about 20 bucks!? I mean really..

to a 'read in between the lines' consumer and a retail manager...the lowest price on the market for a he ball shows inferiority.   

It's true, I'm just saying. The better product is never a "deal."  I know the sync didn't sell the way it was supposed to, and now that "rebates" are back, storm has a 20 dollar rebate now too.





The Sync didn't sell well for two reasons.  It was too strong of a cover/core combo and you could only use it for 4-5 frames. Plus, the Marvel S was a strong ball that most people could use for a sustained amount of time.
U guys bowl on some dry ass lanes . people throw the sync all 3 games at my local house

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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2013, 12:52:33 AM »
Who is worried about 20 bucks!? I mean really..

to a 'read in between the lines' consumer and a retail manager...the lowest price on the market for a he ball shows inferiority.   

It's true, I'm just saying. The better product is never a "deal."  I know the sync didn't sell the way it was supposed to, and now that "rebates" are back, storm has a 20 dollar rebate now too.






It is funny. The better product is the higher product. Learn something new every day. Then it is also interesting how you follow that by saying the better product didn't sell well and they now offer a $20 rebate. So who is worried about $20 I mean really?
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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2013, 07:55:11 AM »
get one, win brackets, buy the other just for fun...
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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2013, 10:11:14 AM »
Who is worried about 20 bucks!? I mean really..

to a 'read in between the lines' consumer and a retail manager...the lowest price on the market for a he ball shows inferiority.   

It's true, I'm just saying. The better product is never a "deal."  I know the sync didn't sell the way it was supposed to, and now that "rebates" are back, storm has a 20 dollar rebate now too.





The Sync didn't sell well for two reasons.  It was too strong of a cover/core combo and you could only use it for 4-5 frames. Plus, the Marvel S was a strong ball that most people could use for a sustained amount of time.
U guys bowl on some dry ass lanes . people throw the sync all 3 games at my local house

Duh!! Yup! That's about the size of it, Larry!

As soon as I heard about the Sync, I was interested. Especially after I heard people comparing it to the VG!! One of my all-time favorite pieces. Trouble is, I have nothing to use it on,....on a regular basis. I still have a VG, with surface that I throw at tournys on heavy oil. Love the reaction!! It currently gets zero useage!!

So to purchase a Sync would mean I'm purchasing an expensive living room ornament; or I'd have to incur some serious weakening drill specs, along with surface reductions just to be able to use this ball.

Soooo, getting back to the original post: You can't go wrong with either ball!! I will admire them from afar..........
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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2013, 04:49:55 PM »
Who is worried about 20 bucks!? I mean really..

to a 'read in between the lines' consumer and a retail manager...the lowest price on the market for a he ball shows inferiority.   

It's true, I'm just saying. The better product is never a "deal."  I know the sync didn't sell the way it was supposed to, and now that "rebates" are back, storm has a 20 dollar rebate now too.





The Sync didn't sell well for two reasons.  It was too strong of a cover/core combo and you could only use it for 4-5 frames. Plus, the Marvel S was a strong ball that most people could use for a sustained amount of time.
U guys bowl on some dry ass lanes . people throw the sync all 3 games at my local house

Duh!! Yup! That's about the size of it, Larry!

As soon as I heard about the Sync, I was interested. Especially after I heard people comparing it to the VG!! One of my all-time favorite pieces. Trouble is, I have nothing to use it on,....on a regular basis. I still have a VG, with surface that I throw at tournys on heavy oil. Love the reaction!! It currently gets zero useage!!

So to purchase a Sync would mean I'm purchasing an expensive living room ornament; or I'd have to incur some serious weakening drill specs, along with surface reductions just to be able to use this ball.

Soooo, getting back to the original post: You can't go wrong with either ball!! I will admire them from afar..........
Everyone i see on here seems too encounter dry lanes , my local house first game the ball sometimes comes back literally dripping with oil.

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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2013, 07:34:47 PM »
Who is worried about 20 bucks!? I mean really..

to a 'read in between the lines' consumer and a retail manager...the lowest price on the market for a he ball shows inferiority.   

It's true, I'm just saying. The better product is never a "deal."  I know the sync didn't sell the way it was supposed to, and now that "rebates" are back, storm has a 20 dollar rebate now too.





The Sync didn't sell well for two reasons.  It was too strong of a cover/core combo and you could only use it for 4-5 frames. Plus, the Marvel S was a strong ball that most people could use for a sustained amount of time.
U guys bowl on some dry ass lanes . people throw the sync all 3 games at my local house

Duh!! Yup! That's about the size of it, Larry!

As soon as I heard about the Sync, I was interested. Especially after I heard people comparing it to the VG!! One of my all-time favorite pieces. Trouble is, I have nothing to use it on,....on a regular basis. I still have a VG, with surface that I throw at tournys on heavy oil. Love the reaction!! It currently gets zero useage!!

So to purchase a Sync would mean I'm purchasing an expensive living room ornament; or I'd have to incur some serious weakening drill specs, along with surface reductions just to be able to use this ball.

Soooo, getting back to the original post: You can't go wrong with either ball!! I will admire them from afar..........
Everyone i see on here seems too encounter dry lanes , my local house first game the ball sometimes comes back literally dripping with oil.
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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2013, 08:08:38 PM »
The mastermind is by far the strongest ball ive ever thrown

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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2013, 11:37:11 AM »
Hey Larry MC,

I got to see a big-handed sub throw the mastermind for the first time last night in league play. I started with a polished Outlaw, but found it was too much ball and had to go to my hybrid Ultra-Sonic drilled pin down.

This dude had high speed and big revs, was able to loft the heads and actually go down and in with games of 278-222-235. The ball was impressive! But it really let's you know when it's time to find a new line, or put it up.

I may have to give it a second look. With a surface adjustment, this ball may be playable for me.
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Re: Mastermind Vs. Hyper Cell
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2013, 01:12:12 PM »
Hyper cell seems to be the more versatile from what I've seen out of both in person
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