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BrunsMike

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Me versus Octane Coverstock
« on: February 07, 2007, 02:49:25 PM »
Okay, I have given both the radical inferno and total inferno, more so the total, more then enough time.

The Radical was too light so that ball never really got a fair chance. Seems to be a great 3rd game ball though.

The Total is on its 5th surface prep and well, I still do not see the advertised backend hook from this ball. This is one 1 drill layout. I still am not done with this ball just yet. I will be trying another drilling on this ball, maybe the rico layout.

As of right now though, I will not be buying any more Octane based cover stock balls from brunswick until I can figure out my problem here.

To give you an idea, my Rampage I can play 15-5 all day long and carry for the most part. The total will play virtually the same line just 4 boards left of target then the rampage with the same break point which would be 19-5. When I do find the pocket on a regular basis the ball is over/under by a lot. Lots of washouts and splits with this ball too, tonight I had 15 total splits! Chalk up another ball to bad experience.
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Re: Me versus Octane Coverstock
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2007, 10:14:16 AM »
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most, actually all of the totals i have seen are move of an up the boards type of ball, i have not seen anyone stand left and rip it, of course the 4-5 i have seen have been from up the board bowlers, and they seem to really get a nice reaction out ot it, carries well and hits hard.  maybe it is not quite the big hooker it is claimed to be (oh, and all are OOB)


I've seen the Total work well in the hands of both down-and-in players and coast-to-coast players.  However, the common denominator seems to be a higher pin-to-PAP distance, like 5" or more.  Layouts closer to leverage seem to result in over-flaring, which is the last thing you'd want with that lower-RG core.

Oh yes...my Total is drilled 5" under, and in box finish, and it's great for opening up tighter blends.  Think Scorchin' in the front, but Red Zone in back.
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Re: Me versus Octane Coverstock
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2007, 12:51:31 PM »
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The layout only affects reaction by something like 10%, you're not going to make gold out of a pile of dung.  If it ain't working for you, chances are it won't.  Sell it while it's hot.


But that 10% can really be the difference between an over-under, inconsistent reaction and "gold".  Splits and washouts sounds like it's coming in just off the headpin, and a 10% difference in reaction might be all that's needed to fix that.

           
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Re: Me versus Octane Coverstock
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2007, 04:09:32 PM »
Okay guys, I appreciate the replies.

I said I wold have a photo of the layout last week but I completely forgot about it. Tonight gauranteed.

As for the ball, The layout thats on the Total is fairly the same as my rampage, just a longer pin. The layout on my Total is my most favorite layout also. I didnt realize this ball has a 4" pin.

The ball was in out of box polish and rolled great before I had the thumb plugged and redrilled to my span, and 95% of the plug material was drilled back into. After that the ball doesnt seem to wanna hook, I tried 5 different surfaces. 220 with matte finish, 800 with matte finish, 1000 no polish, 1000 matte finish, and right now its at 2000 polished. Best results were with the 1000 no polish. Hand positions dont seem to work very well at all. Yes the ball is over/under on the "Correct" line. Its just 4-5 boards stronger over my rampage. Heres a scary thought, Rampage which costs half of what the Total does retail looks like gold compared. If I wanted a high performance ball to go straight, id buy a NIB No Mercy! (the NM's ive seen locally have all been duds from what Ive seen)

Splendorlex, I am already ahead of you on thinking about other companies, this is just for the heavy oil lanes. Im looking at Ebonite once again for the heavy oil condition. I had The One and The BIG One, drilled identical and they complimented each other extremely nice.

I have come to my decision on what I am going to do with this ball. It is going up for sale or trade, there will be a post before the weekend in the For Sale/Trade forums.
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Re: Me versus Octane Coverstock
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2007, 01:56:29 PM »
As long as you people keep drilling these super strong balls, with the pins/marked bias' right of your midline they are going to burn up and stop. Hence thats why most of you have to play a straighter line with them.
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Re: Me versus Octane Coverstock
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2007, 07:01:47 PM »
ive thrown the ti and i only throw brunswick and the lane 1 balls with brunswick coverstocks. i have my own on the way. The one i threw was pin up and it turned beautifully. It read the midlane well an cornered liked nobodies business. Was not a big fan of the radical but the total is on a whole diff level and i cant wait to get my fury. Pick that monster out its gunna b great
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BrunsMike

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Re: Me versus Octane Coverstock
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2007, 10:14:24 PM »
I was emailed by Billy O several different pin layouts. The ball is drilled incorrectly for me and most everyone else out there, probably why Frank The Tank never liked it either as the drilling was never changed from him to me just the correct span put on the ball. I will try 1 other drilling and then go from there. Might just say screw it and trade for a Red Zone. Dont know yet.
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Mike Zadler
Using the best brand in the nation, BRUNSWICK!!!
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 196
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
http://www.BrunsNick.com
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Re: Me versus Octane Coverstock
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2007, 10:35:12 PM »
dont screw it give it a shot if the drill matches u go for it should read well
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