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lilphyzx

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Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« on: July 28, 2006, 08:03:57 AM »
Is it just me or did anyone else notice the guy who they had comparing the video of the radical inferno to the other infernos like the absolute didnt even throw the same line with the absolute and said that the absolute wouldnt recover from the same line. IF you noticed he swings the radical to the gutter and when he picks up the absolute he swings it more inside instead of throwing it to the ditch like he did the radical.

 

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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2006, 04:14:53 PM »
i think it appears to be that way because the Absolute picks up a roll in the midlane much earlier than the Radical.

so i guess you could say the Absolute is "less" clean through the heads than the Radical.
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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2006, 04:27:06 PM »
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so i guess you could say the Absolute is "less" clean through the heads than the Radical.


Wouldn't have anything to do with the RB vs polish, would it?  

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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2006, 04:30:59 PM »
He rolled the ball based on its predicted reaction.  The Absolute would not have recovered on the same line as the Radical.
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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2006, 04:35:40 PM »
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He rolled the ball based on its predicted reaction.  The Absolute would not have recovered on the same line as the Radical.


That's what I'd like to see, though.  Check out the Rotogrip site (if it's not blocked <g> and watch the video they have for the RS line.  They throw one ball and strike.  Then throw the next one with the same line and show how it doesn't strike, then show the adjustment needed to get to the pocket.  And again with the next ball.  I think it's very cool to be able to see how they react differently.  

Track did something like that a while back with videos for the Freak and Phenom and the Crunch Time and Phenom Unleashed.  That sort of comparison really shows you how the balls will react differently on a given condition.  Not to say I don't like the Brunswick vids because I do, but they could show more of the differences.

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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2006, 07:12:32 PM »
A few of you guys/gals answered correctly. Because of the differences in the two balls, the Absolute picks up a roll sooner and does not get to the same breakpoint spot down the lane. If we were to shine it up, the Absolute may get to the same spot but not bounce off of it as sharp.
  I will mention to our R & D staff that it might be cool to see the comparisons from the same target and breakpoint, and then what move was made to get to the pocket. Sometimes, though, it's not easy to see in video at what spot on the lane a ball first reads, as is the case with the Absolute in that comparison.

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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2006, 09:33:18 PM »
If you have a good eye for ball reaction and can see the slight differences, you CAN actually see the Absolute picking up sooner.  The release target as well as the target at the arrows for both balls are very similar.  Have you ever noticed differences when you go to switch balls that are very different and try to use the same line?  If I'm having trouble with a ball checking up early or having trouble coming back, say like my Tsunami, and I switch to my Smokin Inferno and play the same line, you can SEE the ball get through the heads better before it starts to rev or move, and the backend is greater, but it also will be a board to a few boards further right without me changing a thing.  If you have a ball that hooks later, and you're playing an inside line with more of a skid/snap line than an even arcing one, logic states that it will travel further right than a ball that hooks earlier, even though they're on the same line.  A ball that starts at 35 feet may only get out to 10 or 11, but a ball that starts at 41 or 42 feet, if thrown on the same line, would get out as far as 6.  This is why the Radical gets out 3 to 4 boards further than the Absolute.  The bowler they use for the testing has a shot that will EASILY and clearly show you differences in ball reaction that other bowlers might not or won't notice.  Take a much higher rev bowler with more speed and forward roll, and it would blend the differences between the balls rather than illustrate them.
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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2006, 11:17:23 PM »
Not worth the high end ball price, can get a cheaper ball to do the same thing

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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2006, 11:50:36 PM »
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Not worth the high end ball price, can get a cheaper ball to do the same thing


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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2006, 07:48:50 AM »
yea i would like to see the throw bot throw both of the balls and get a comparison. I understand what you said that it picks up a roll earlier but he did throw a sanded scorchin inferno and it went to the same breakpoint and recovered. Would you think the scorchin would pick up a roll earlier than the absolut with a rough buff cover. To me in the video it didnt look like he tried to get it to the same breakpoint but I may be wrong.

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Re: Radical inferno video on brunswicks site question
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2006, 07:52:07 AM »
I read your response again brunsbob I think I understand.