I can't believe how strong this ball is. I even had it drilled with the pin two inches from my pap. I left an insane amount of 8 and 9 pins standing. I didn't leave many 10 pins. Although the ball hooks alot, it is very controlled. I was pretty much standing between 36 and 40. When my wild thing starts checking up early, I can go to the slingshot and play the same area.