Author Topic: NEW Avalanche Urethane (Read 9792 times)

mj79 · « **on:** May 17, 2010, 11:43:53 AM »

Decided to pick one of these up.. Ive heard a few different dates for release, so can anyone tell me an exact date? Decided this over the slingshot.. I dont know why, but it just seems it would be more predictable in both roll and pocket entry.. Anyone else thinking about this one?
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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2010, 08:16:14 PM »

On Buddies website, they say it will be available on May 28th. I think it may more to do with when the distributor can get it to the pro shop. (I had originally heard May 24th.)
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mj79 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2010, 08:51:12 PM »

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On Buddies website, they say it will be available on May 28th. I think it may more to do with when the distributor can get it to the pro shop. (I had originally heard May 24th.)
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yea I also heard the 18th.. either way, cant wait.. You picking one up?
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2010, 08:54:06 PM »

yes.
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2010, 08:58:57 PM »

I've got the Slingshot waiting to drill, and I'll probably be picking up one of these as well, maybe even the green/black reactive too.
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mj79 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2010, 09:02:37 PM »

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I've got the Slingshot waiting to drill, and I'll probably be picking up one of these as well, maybe even the green/black reactive too.
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why so many light oil balls?

also what is the difference between the standard ( solid ) urethane, compared to the avalanche polished urethane? Obviously polished is a more down and in , skid/flip, but does that really matter when your not talking about reactive ?
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2010, 09:20:37 PM »

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why so many light oil balls?

I do most of my good bowling with this type of equipment. With my stats, strong balls are usually NOT my friend. Most likely, I''ll have trouble keeping the green/black from being too strong for me since it is pk18.

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also what is the difference between the standard ( solid ) urethane, compared to the avalanche polished urethane?

Well, a "normal" solid urethane is pretty aggressive. It will read the lane earlier than most reactives, just not as hard as they do. The Avalanche is a PEARL urethane, which means it has the pearl additive that keeps it from reading the lane as early as a solid, plus it is polished, which will delay it even more. It can be used on SUBSTANTIALLY less oil than a solid.

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Obviously polished is a more down and in , skid/flip, but does that really matter when your not talking about reactive ?

Only if you have a condition that will allow the balls natural tendencies to come into play. With urethane, you won''t really notice tons of difference until the lanes get pretty dry. This is where you will see significant difference.
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Edited on 5/17/2010 9:21 PM

mj79 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2010, 09:51:06 PM »

Ahhh, gotcha. good post

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I dont have a super power shot by any means ( as you can see in the sig ) but MOST of the time, my Diamondback is out after one game , the freeze 2 at most , depending on conditions, SO I think ts worth it to at least TRY a urethane , even tho people dont have a clue as to why , when THEY can use their invasion all night

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My bad! its still in my head that pearl and polished were the same.. So PEARL is a part of the coverstock, and The FINISH/shell/surface etc is polished.. I always thought that Pearl was polished.. durrrrrr

Im really liking the idea of a polished pearl now that I think of it, Seems like there will be a ton of options to go to for surface changes if needed.. I do want to go pin below the ring ( im thinking ) for a smoother, higher arc roll instead of a heavier backend, and if thats not enough, maybe take the surface down to a 2000..?? OR should I be thinking of drilling for a backend considering i will be able to hopefully play far to the outside where not many people have been, opposed to the highly beaten mid lane

#3
Makes sense, So is this ball basically a urethane slingshot?
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2010, 10:26:48 PM »

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Ahhh, gotcha. good post

Response to

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I dont have a super power shot by any means ( as you can see in the sig ) but MOST of the time, my Diamondback is out after one game , the freeze 2 at most , depending on conditions, SO I think ts worth it to at least TRY a urethane , even tho people dont have a clue as to why , when THEY can use their invasion all night

My release is probably stronger than it needs to be for reactives, but I learned to bowl with a yellow dot, and after years have only been able to turn it down a little.

And, I understand COMPLETELY about watching people use aggressive balls all night, we have a house FULL of guys like that here

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#2
My bad! its still in my head that pearl and polished were the same.. So PEARL is a part of the coverstock, and The FINISH/shell/surface etc is polished.. I always thought that Pearl was polished.. durrrrrr

As I understand it, the pearlization gives the balls coverstock qualities that reduce its footprint as well as its frictional qualities, while the polish is the final finish OF THE SURFACE of the ball.

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Im really liking the idea of a polished pearl now that I think of it, Seems like there will be a ton of options to go to for surface changes if needed.. I do want to go pin below the ring ( im thinking ) for a smoother, higher arc roll instead of a heavier backend, and if thats not enough, maybe take the surface down to a 2000..?? OR should I be thinking of drilling for a backend considering i will be able to hopefully play far to the outside where not many people have been, opposed to the highly beaten mid lane

Urethane balls, by their nature, tend to be rollier and arcier than their reactive cousins. For me, that subdued reaction lets me play more direct to the pocket without having that last second over reaction. After throwing reactives, it takes a bit to get used to the fact that the urethane will look like its going high, but it holds and just flushes the rack.

Might be time to try that "RICO" that everyone seems to be talking about.

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Makes sense, So is this ball basically a urethane slingshot?

Well, no, not really. The Avalanche series does have a bit better core dynamics than the Slingshot series, while the cover of the Slingshots is stronger. What I will probably do is drill the Slingshot and the urethane Avalanche alike, then use the Avalanche after the shot burns up too much for the Slingshot. I'm thinking once I burn up a track for it, the Avalanche core will be strong enough to turn the corner off the burn, but still let me stay in my comfort zone.

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mj79 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2010, 10:51:20 PM »

awesome man, thanks for the help.. I usually cover quite a few boards, especially with diamondback, so hopefully like you were saying once that area gets burned up the avalanche will help me out, If not move about 5 boards right and try again, but yea especially after watching some vids on the Natural It looks VERY mild and continuous arc.

Our bowling center, ( for being rather brand new, very busy and with all new equiptment ) sure is skimpy on the oil and how often they use it ( ESPECIALLY for ppl like me who bought the Unlimited bowling pass for the summer ) Today I wanted to get a few games in tonight just to loosen up for leagues tomorrow, and I ended up throwing my T zone down and in the same way I throw my freeze in a flood, which is down the 5-6 and in at the end.. Well my T zone was hitting headpin and brooklyn.. I wish the owner wasnt so cheap

Lanes are like this 3-4 days a week
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J_w73 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2010, 11:31:24 PM »

According to Tom Tomaras at Brunswick the balls should be in the distributors hands any day now. Our local one here said he will have his in on the 21st or the 28th. There is not Brunswick release date so as soon as the distributors get them they are allowed to sell them.

So how is everyone planning on drilling theres..

I am thinking a 5 to 5.5 inch pin to the PAP.. close to the VAL so 6 3/4 from the pin is right around the thumbhole distance. Set it up so I can pop a hole next to the thumb hole to create a little more asymmetry if I want some added pop on the backend.

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Edited on 5/17/2010 11:32 PM

mj79 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2010, 11:49:53 PM »

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According to Tom Tomaras at Brunswick the balls should be in the distributors hands any day now. Our local one here said he will have his in on the 21st or the 28th. There is not Brunswick release date so as soon as the distributors get them they are allowed to sell them.

So how is everyone planning on drilling theres..

I am thinking a 5 to 5.5 inch pin to the PAP.. close to the VAL so 6 3/4 from the pin is right around the thumbhole distance. Set it up so I can pop a hole next to the thumb hole to create a little more asymmetry if I want some added pop on the backend.

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Edited on 5/17/2010 11:32 PM

Well I dont have the fancy pants #s you do for your layouts

I think im just gonna try a pin below the ring.. My PAP is 4 1/2 x 3/4 down, , But would like the option for a weight hole as well if its to rolly with not enough backend ..

But like Juggernaut said they do tend to have a natural arc to them already.. so Im still curious about how Im gonna drill mine

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Edited on 5/18/2010 0:21 AM

mj79 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2010, 11:16:04 PM »

OK, Change of plans .. possibly.. I went to the pro shop today and told my driller I wanted the Avalanche urethane, and to order it up for me.. I told him everything I was looking for and to do with it, so then hes like hold on... So he goes in the back and brings out a Seismic Desperado... He said its an amazing Urethane, its a pearl , polished, and has ( in his opinion ) a better core and surface than the avalanche lines.. what do you think?

http://www.buddiesproshop.com/product/7013/Seismic_Desperado_Bowling_Ball.htm
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Juggernaut · « **Reply #13 on:** May 19, 2010, 12:09:11 AM »

It is a pearl, it is assymetric so the core is stronger, and the ball has a silicone additive in the coverstock to get the reaction Seismic desired.

Ball is poured by 900G.

It is usually a pretty high priced ball as well. Probably be higher than the Avalanche.
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Edited on 5/19/2010 0:10 AM

mj79 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 19, 2010, 12:35:35 AM »

he said $120 drilled with slugs and tips out the door...

Hmmm decisions decisions

But it does look descent tho?
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