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Long Gone Daddy

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New balls not measuring up?
« on: August 30, 2013, 08:36:41 AM »
Can't help but notice that on the Big B forum all the talk is about the Strike King.  Nothing about the pro performance stuff.  Walk into my local pro shop and they have a Paranormal Aura and Meanstreak Beatdown and a Ringer.  Meanwhile every Storm Hammer, DV8 ball made is on display.  Brunswick falling behind the others in buzz and performance?
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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 08:57:24 AM »
The new Beatdown looks great. I've not thrown one. My Aura Mystic is more ball then expected.  It is stronger then my paranormal with both almost drilled identical. The Mystic and Endless are closer in reaction then I expected. Having both is over kill. I'm going to sell the Mystic.

I'd love to add a Beatdown but I'm not seeing enough oil in leagues or tournaments to do it.The Strike King is really that good all around.
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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 09:30:32 AM »
I think LGD was referring to the case where there are significantly more balls from other manufacturers being displayed than Brunswick.  Either the pro shop doesn't deem those balls worthy or there isn't a want for those balls begging the question; are Brunswick balls not measuring up?

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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 09:35:24 AM »
Brunswick has been in the dumps since they moved to Mexico.  They were on top with the Zone line, and did pretty well with the Inferno line.  Ever since then, i never even considered buying a Brunswick ball.
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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 09:43:43 AM »
I think it's really market dependant.  In my shop i have 2 brunswick guys, one does pretty well with them, the other doesn't really know any difference.  I have seen alot of DV8 stuff lately but the majority of the stuff I sell is Storm/Roto.

Now about 40 minutes from me, brunswick has a solid following as the shop owner is on staff.  I think that also plays a big part to display scenarios.  I'm a Storm VIP shop, so of course i'm going to push that product to receive the rebates, but i won't tell someone not to buy any other brand.  I think every brand makes quality products, it's just a matter of matching up with them in my opinion.

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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2013, 10:44:05 AM »
A shop not displaying something means very little in the overall market. Proshops can only carry so much stuff. With many having a Storm/Roto deal, or the EBI gold membership ect for rebates they are obviously going to keep those stocked for the rebates as mentioned. since they had the Beatdown the Mystic may have already sold. Or maybe since it is marketed to be "less" then the previous 2 Auras they were afraid to stock it.

My local shop is an EBI gold member. They stock heavily in those 4 brands with a little Brunswick/DV8 and that is it. Still that is 6 brands to have in stock not counting Radical. They will occasionally have a Storm/Roto ball on display and a few other brands when the urge hits I guess. Still its is 95% EBI.
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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2013, 11:33:08 AM »
A few things could be happening here:  We've all just finished summer (bowling-wise) and all I hear about is how dry the conditions are where people bowl.  That could lead the discussion towards the Strike King.

Many bowlers, like myself, cut waaaaay back on bowling during the summer, except this year I bowled on a sport league with WTBA patterns.  These are a challenge for me, and pretty much squash any high scores, and combined with almost zero practice, I haven't had too much to say EXCEPT that I really like the Beatdown and Mystic Aura.  These are very nice additions.

My shop owner is a long time Storm staffer, who has zero problems with me selling the Brunswick line because he sees their quality is still second to none.  A few weeks ago I saw our distributor pick up 9 balls that had cracked all the way around, and not one was Brunswick.  Cracking can happen with any manufacturer at times, but no one was jumping off the wagon for these companies...

People see their friend bowl well with "Ball X" and guess which one they are going to buy?  Brunswick is enjoying a very good sales year, but people only see what their particular shop seems to sell most of.  The sky is not falling!




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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2013, 11:42:29 AM »
Brunswick is still selling great in my area. I do see a lot of certain brands sell better than others in certain areas.

To note on performance side, the new ones are very good. I cannot put the Mystic down. Absolutely loving this ball. The Beatdown has not been in my hand much, but going to try and use only that ball this week in leagues to show it off some. A lot of buzz about this ball in my shop.
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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2013, 02:46:11 PM »
You guys touched on the pro shop aspect but completely ignored the lack of buzz on this forum about the Big B balls.  Perhaps Radical and DV8 are garnering all the attention.  More buzz on the Motiv forum also.  Like I said, its all Strike King on here.
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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2013, 04:39:54 PM »
You guys touched on the pro shop aspect but completely ignored the lack of buzz on this forum about the Big B balls.  Perhaps Radical and DV8 are garnering all the attention.  More buzz on the Motiv forum also.  Like I said, its all Strike King on here.

It seems we rarely see any buzz for Brunswick here -- or even much on FB -- compared to other brands.  Yet some of us love the old and new stuff for that signature Brunswick roll.  I can't out my Ringer down or my Versamax.  They even knocked my Gold Rhino Pro out of the bag!  A Strike King is tempting me, as I think it is what I wanted from the Meanstreak (length and a strong angular response to friction on lighter oil).

I see guys excited about the DV8 stuff but the company is attracting a different type of bowler with their marketing.  What will be really interesting to me is to see what comes of Radical. 

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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2013, 07:51:47 PM »
There is a lack of buzz on a lot of equipment at any given time on here. No matter what we think of this site or others, it is a small sample of the bowling world.

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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2013, 08:34:01 PM »
New bowling balls are getting boring because the companies just come out with them too fast !!! And not that much changes about them..

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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2013, 10:35:41 PM »
DV8s sell like crazy! Big b not so much...I do see more radical than big b now..which is odd.

Everyone had the first nexus, and I havent seen much since..oddly enough. 
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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2013, 07:36:57 AM »
When the Aura's and Meanstreaks first came out, there was a pretty good buzz for Brunswick.  Now, next to nothing.  None of the pro shops in my area ever really carried Brunswick on the shelves, so it's hard to say if they are any less popular here.

In my area, Roto and Storm are pretty much what you see on the racks.  DV8 and Track next.  A decent handful of Global and Hammer also.

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Re: New balls not measuring up?
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2013, 10:02:26 AM »
DV8s sell like crazy! Big b not so much...I do see more radical than big b now..which is odd.

Everyone had the first nexus, and I havent seen much since..oddly enough.

Yeah, I got the first Nexus also.  Nice ball.  Bought the new Nexxxus and am not impressed.  Might try the Meanstreak Brawler next but to tell the truth, I'm thinking of starting to go to Motiv or 900G equipment.  Big B just ain't, well, ain't.
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