Post by: brunswickcomplete on March 01, 2011, 01:14:04 AM
new karma on the brunswick website
Post by: AlBundy33 on March 01, 2011, 09:31:01 AM
Post by: Dewey24 on March 01, 2011, 10:20:31 AM
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/karma-black-blue-solid/
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/karma-blue-green-pearl/
Post by: tdub36tjt on March 01, 2011, 12:50:45 PM
How different is that core from the Danger Zone core??
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 01, 2011, 12:52:23 PM
This Brunswick release dovetails nicely with the interest in a new release of the ever popular Danger Zone.
The core has a sligtly lower RG Diff than the Danger Zone, .040 versus .047 in the orignal.
I guess this means they won't be using the Avalanche Danger name I suggested - LOL
Edited by Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on 3/1/2011 at 2:05 PM
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 01, 2011, 01:11:18 PM
Very nice looking new stuff. I was hoping for a little more aggressive core like this with the PK17 covers/Slingshot series, but will gladly take the PK18 covers as well.
Had a lot of success with this series of equipment this season.
Was the sales low or just ok on the Damage and this a possible replacement in a lower series?
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: charlest on March 01, 2011, 05:22:06 PM
Slighlty higher Rg, slightly lower RG Differential.
VERY different from the Avalanche cores.
VERY INTERESTING!!!!
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 01, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: dizzyfugu on March 02, 2011, 12:56:02 AM
This sounds and looks like a true winner combo - not only performnace-wise, but also concerning value for money. Probably anything a league bowler might need - if I had not ny Revolution Renegade (very similar package), I'd immediately get one. Sweet!
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Post by: mrteach3 on March 02, 2011, 04:52:34 AM
It is meant to be in the price point of Freezes from Columbia. Brunswick needed to get something in the area again after they got rid of the Avalanches. They will be on the shelf as soon as possible to compete with the Freezes.
Who needs a 300 or 800, when I have a 294 and a 295!?!?!
Post by: DP3 on March 02, 2011, 11:00:35 AM
These two balls have marked my official return to bowling. I haven't really cared in 3 years until this point.
Post by: Dewey24 on March 02, 2011, 03:35:22 PM
Post by: RSalas on March 02, 2011, 03:38:15 PM
From the E-mail announcing the releases:
"The Karma Black/Blue Solid and Karma Blue/Green Pearl will start shipping to Distributors the week of March 14, 2011."
Ray Salas
Brunswick Amateur Staff
http://www.brunswickbowling.com
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 02, 2011, 05:26:51 PM
Bowlingballdiscounts is showing them for $75 with free shipping.
Now sure if that is just for pre-orders or if that will be the online price. I plan on ordering both.
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: Dewey24 on March 03, 2011, 05:52:09 AM
Post by: charlest on March 03, 2011, 06:09:29 AM
Add $4.95 for handling per order
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Post by: kidlost2000 on March 03, 2011, 07:54:15 AM
The site is saying there are no fees and free shipping. Never bought from them, I usually go through bowlingball.com but didnt see any listed yet.
Still I like the price point.
Be good, or be good at it.
Post by: cisco1869 on March 03, 2011, 11:02:30 AM
While I have never ordered from them online, the site does say there is no handling / packing charges:
"Are there any hidden costs for my order? Top
No. We do not charge any handling or packaging fees, and with our free UPS ground shipping to the continental United States the price you see is the price you pay."
No. We do not charge any handling or packaging fees, and with our free UPS ground shipping to the continental United States the price you see is the price you pay."
If you were charged I would question it.
Post by: charlest on March 03, 2011, 12:06:19 PM
Sorry I mislabelled the charge. It is a Packaging fee.
From their FAQ page:
If shipping is free, why is there a Packaging Fee of $4.95?
Shipping is free, no matter how many items or how heavy or how far they must go within the continental USA. Many times our shipping cost exceeds $30 to $40 on a single order. The Packaging Fee is PER ORDER, not per item, so you could order 50 items, pay no shipping, only the one-time, per order charge of $4.95. This Packaging Fee is standard on many sites and is a set amount to help defray the cost of packaging and stocking items.
Shipping is free, no matter how many items or how heavy or how far they must go within the continental USA. Many times our shipping cost exceeds $30 to $40 on a single order. The Packaging Fee is PER ORDER, not per item, so you could order 50 items, pay no shipping, only the one-time, per order charge of $4.95. This Packaging Fee is standard on many sites and is a set amount to help defray the cost of packaging and stocking items.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
"Some bowlers are crazy as pickled cats."
Edited by charlest on 3/3/2011 at 1:08 PM
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 04, 2011, 12:28:33 PM
"The Curmudgeon wrote: oh, I'm just all a-twitter. Old shell, old core. I'll stick with my C-System and Wicked Seige."
Cranky "old guy", aren't you?
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 06, 2011, 09:53:02 AM
"The Curmudgeon wrote: ......Same line, 6 different high end balls, and striking with all. I asked him if he really thought there was a big difference between them and he said "Naw, I just need to say that I threw them so I can talk about them with customers". What does that tell you?......"
It tells me that we don't disagree - so why are you throwing that C-System. I still have my Purple Rhino Pro and Fuze Eliminator in the bag - you can't wear those old balls out. Actually my 'current bag' looks like this:
Fuze Eliminator - solid particle
Python - pearl
Danger Zone - solid
Avalanche Solid - solid
Avalanche Slide - pearl
Purple Rhino Pro - solid
Slingshot - pearl
T-Zone - plastic
Needless to say I don't carry them all to league - usually bring four including the plastic - rarely get to use the top three or four anymore - not enough oil - maybe a Karma Pearl in the future, or maybe not - often only throw two balls all night:)
Post by: Dave_in_Rio_Rancho on March 06, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
"The Curmudgeon wrote: Good point. The reason is I don't throw 16 lbs anymore and my old DZ and other old stuff is 16 lbs."
Yeah, I haven't been able to throw a 16 lb in a couple of decades - it was making my body hurt too much afterward - darn shame - you can't beat the carry of a 16 lb ball 'straight into the pocket' - you really don't need to put near as much hand into your shot - these days if I want to see someone throw old school I have to watch Norm Duke; and he pays the price nearly every time he bowls:)
Post by: JMORRIS on March 08, 2011, 04:08:58 PM
Free shipping, no additional charges on all orders within the continental US.
www.bowlingballdiscounts.com