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crankncrash

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Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« on: November 28, 2006, 09:27:56 AM »
I need to make a choice soon between the Total and showing No Mercy to the pins, SHOW ME THE ROUGH BUFF BABY!  I want that Total, but I'm not sure its strong enough.
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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2006, 11:03:30 PM »
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On top of that, to make a statement that a solid is stronger than a pearl or a symmetrical core ball is weaker than an asymmetrical is a very uneducated statement as well.


Then way even make different covers (solids, pearl, particle pearl, plastic) and cores....If they all can do the same thing ?


Who said anything about different covers and cores doing the same thing?

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Back to the TI vs NM...Why don't you post how the balls were drilled and cover preps ? What lane condition they were compared on ?


Why should he bother?  Is it even remotely possible that any answers that he could give would change your mind on this matter?
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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2006, 12:23:23 AM »
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Back to the TI vs NM...Why don't you post how the balls were drilled and cover preps ? What lane condition they were compared on ?


Why should he bother?  Is it even remotely possible that any answers that he could give would change your mind on this matter?


You didn't quote my whole response...Doesn't really matter to me one way or another. BrunsRich should post them so the original poster could have something to go by instead of "2-3 boards stronger"...lol

Pretty broad statement for someone "in the know" to give advice, huh ?

2-3 boards where ?
2-3 boards overall ?
2-3 boards backend ?
2-3 boards midlane ?


How about the layout used on both ? What was the cover ?

As far as we know the cover on the NM could be box (4000) and the TI be 400 when they made the comparison...  

Don't you think that if someone told you xxx ball was stronger then yyy ball you would want the person to tell you all the specs ?

The original poster is about to make a $180+ purchase on a new ball, shouldn't he get as much info as possible to help him make his choice instead of some guy that works for the company one-siding his decision ?
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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2006, 01:30:00 AM »
Isn't this whole discussion for the loo?

Hey I mean after all we are talking about:
two different balls with
 - different cores
 - different coverstocks and
 - different surface preparation

and the question about assymetric vs symmetric also is "down the loo" cause the drilling makes hell of a difference!

My Tsunami as assymetric and solid has same hook as my Arsenal Angular Particle.
Two balls! Different cores! One is a solid Reactive the other a Pearl Particle. Both cover the same "amount" of boards but with different shape cause I wanted them drilled that way... the solid starts earlier with a smoother overallmovement whereas the pearl particle goes longer and snaps more towards the pocket...

So I would say the balls are equally strong. And there's nothing wrong in that statement.

So please stop complaining about Nick making a statement that is in his oppinion true cause you can't prove him wrong! And after all I guess he has more info and insight than others including me have so we would like him to give us advice.

I appreciate his help.... a lot!
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302efi

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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2006, 01:56:15 AM »
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Isn't this whole discussion for the loo?

Hey I mean after all we are talking about:
two different balls with
 - different cores
 - different coverstocks and
 - different surface preparation

and the question about assymetric vs symmetric also is "down the loo" cause the drilling makes hell of a difference!

My Tsunami as assymetric and solid has same hook as my Arsenal Angular Particle.
Two balls! Different cores! One is a solid Reactive the other a Pearl Particle. Both cover the same "amount" of boards but with different shape cause I wanted them drilled that way... the solid starts earlier with a smoother overallmovement whereas the pearl particle goes longer and snaps more towards the pocket...

So I would say the balls are equally strong. And there's nothing wrong in that statement.

So please stop complaining about Nick making a statement that is in his oppinion true cause you can't prove him wrong! And after all I guess he has more info and insight than others including me have so we would like him to give us advice.

I appreciate his help.... a lot!


Who was complaining about BrunsNick ? I think you didnt read it right...All my comments where in reference to BrunsRicH

Also you pointed out exactly what I was saying...Both balls are completely different cores & covers and are finished different....so having said that, consider what I said from the get go:

Drilled the same, with same finish, the No Mercy out hooks the Total Inferno.

So I drill both balls with a label (basic drill) and finish them the same cover...You think the TI will be stronger overall ?...LOL
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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2006, 02:00:58 AM »
Sounds like 302efi should make a comparison video
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302efi

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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2006, 02:35:19 AM »
Good tip Nick..I just might do that...Gotta freebie TI I can have ?

Actually I wouldnt mind owning one, the guy tossing the one in the Brunswick TI video makes it look damn good...Lots of continuation through the pit.

The guy on my team that has one puts alot of forward roll on his, but he just don't send it out there like in the vid
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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2006, 12:13:57 PM »
Total Inferno - possibility of a weight hole on the positive side.
No Mercy - little or no possibility of an effective weight hole on pos side.

Now tell me with a straight face that I can't drill a Total to outhook the No Mercy given same pin distance, same cover prep.
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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2006, 02:08:55 PM »
I have pre-ordered the TI and look forward to this exact comparison. But, after having thrown the NM for about 10 games on different conditions the Brunswick guys are scaring me!! If the TI is 2-3 boards STRONGER than the NM I'll have to bowl from the next lane on the left! The NM is SCARY strong, can't wait to see what the TI is capable of....
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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2006, 02:19:35 PM »
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If you are a Brunswick person, I would recommend this ball.


A Brunswick rep thinks people should buy Brunswick balls!  Truly shocking.  

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Re: Nick, when do we see the TI in Rough Buff?
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2006, 05:38:18 PM »
I have a No Mercy and a Total Inferno all around the No mercy is earlier and smoother doesnt cover as many boards as the Total but DOES handle more oil. All around the TI is stronger but at tghe same time cant handle as much oil as the No Mercy.
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